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A recent experience I had was : 1. buy movie on iTunes 2. have kids that can't do long distance drives 3. obtain dvd players for car 4. realized I can't play f
by kobieps 4mo ago
A recent experience I had was :
1. buy movie on iTunes
2. have kids that can't do long distance drives
3. obtain dvd players for car
4. realized I can't play films that I "bought" on DVD players
It feels like the "Buy" button on iTunes/Apple TV is misleading, and should be renamed to "License to watch on Apple devices". Obvious in hindsight, but this type of DRM severely restricts use cases.
- cheeze 4mo agoWhile I agree with you in spirit... were you expecting that you could... burn the film to a DVD or something? Of course buying a movie on itunes means you can only watch it on capable devices. You can't play a youtube video on a VHS player either.
- kobieps 4mo agoNot at all (hence saying "obvious in hindsight"). Simply pointing out that, at the time, my purchasing decision wasn't influenced by how many use cases it would restrict. Also, IIRC, there was a period where you could burn Audio CDs from music that you purchased on iTunes. edit: turns out music purchased on iTunes is DRM-free!
- cassianoleal 4mo ago> there was a period where you could burn Audio CDs from music that you purchased on iTunes. Music purchased on iTunes is DRM-free, so you can definitely burn CDs with them.
- kobieps 4mo agoAh very nice. I suppose it makes sense that music is DRM-free but films aren't
- rkagerer 4mo agoI suppose it makes sense that music is DRM-free but films aren't Why?
- crazygringo 4mo agoIt's orders of magnitude more expensive to make a movie than it is to make a track.
- kobieps 4mo agoyeah exactly
- HDBaseT 4mo agoand?
- crazygringo 4mo agoDid you read the question? It was an answer to the question.
- oxzidized 4mo agoNot to put words in their mouth, but my question would be: isn't that why movies are more expensive than an audio track? Not to mention that movies have "concerts" much more regularly and in many places at once where they make money, no? I don't really have an idea of the exact economics of it all, so these are genuine questions.
- t-3 4mo agoHaven't used iTunes in more than a decade, but it used to have options for converting files to different formats and burning playlists to disks and ripping CDs.
- IanCal 4mo agoWhile I agree it seems obvious you can’t do that, based on how these platforms have limited things for a long time… but that really should be something you can do. Why can’t I get the file and put it on another device? Why can’t I burn it to a dvd? It makes sense that Apple aren’t required to make more software for random devices, but why can’t I have the file and do what I want with it?
- salad-tycoon 4mo agoYou’re absolutely right. If it was a song from iTunes you bought you sure as hell could burn it on a dvd or cd or whatever. (Right? It’s been a long time.) So if I buy a movie why can’t I archive it on a DVD?
- kobieps 4mo agohonestly given these types of shenanigans from the big platforms, I think buying physical discs is underrated. At least for the classics that you really want to add to your long-term collection
- Projectiboga 4mo agoThe upcoming financial quarter is a big issue for whomever licenced that content to Apple and to a lesser extant Apple Inc themselves.
- rkagerer 4mo agoOf course b̵u̵y̵i̵n̵g̵ licensing a movie on itunes...
- hartbook 4mo agobuying a video game at Walmart means you're only able to play it there, it's so obvious:)
- t-3 4mo agoActually there were some DVD players back in the day that could play digital files burned to DVD or CD, and it was totally possible to burn DVDs that could play normally on most players from video files.
- GreenVulpine 4mo agoYou used to be able to buy songs on iTunes and burn them to CD. Why would the expectation for movies be any different?
- 7jjjjjjj 4mo agoIf you have a composite video adapter it's pretty easy to dub a YouTube video to VHS.
- lucaspiller 4mo agoNetflix has the same problem. Downloaded some TV shows for my daughter to watch while we were travelling. Worked fine on the plane, arrived to the hotel, connected to WiFi "This content is not available in your location". Ok, disconnect, don't need wifi. Same message, "This content is not available in your location".
- marcus_holmes 4mo agoI spent a couple of years travelling around the world, and this is what drove me to piracy. Every time I moved country, the streaming services would change and the show I was watching yesterday is no longer available in this country. Luckily the torrent sites are available from every country.
- brianwawok 4mo agoFWIW this is why I travel with a OpenWRT router runnning a Tailscale pipe to my basement. Get to travel with US media access.
- sneak 4mo agoIt says right in the TOS that it's licensed, not sold. Then the button says "Buy". It's intentionally misleading and contradictory.
- kobieps 4mo agoWhaaat... oh wow that's bleak. I guess Apple do whatever they want.
- jiggawatts 4mo agoI’ve had Apple delete my music from my devices. As in, I had a physical CD I had purchased, ripped to MP3, and loaded onto my iPhone. iTunes recognised it, linked it to the matching official entry in their music store, they lost the licence and deleted all customer copies including mine.
- marysol5 4mo agoThat's every provider
- treis 4mo agoI don't think it's really that misleading. You're buying a license and I'm hard pressed to think of some other interpretation of that. That the license kind of sucks and comes with restrictions is the bigger problem than any inherent deception
- pnt12 4mo ago
- uxjw 4mo agoI've had movies I've "bought" disappear from the Apple account. I guess they lost the license and I'm supposed to download all purchases and manually copy between devices. I contacted Apple and they offered a free rental as compensation. "Buy" doesn't mean the same on these streaming platforms, its just a longer-term rental.
- salutis 4mo agoI left Apple Music over this. My albums would keep quietly disappearing. I spent hours on the phone with their support, and despite their promises, nothing ever changed. I left Apple Music, and then all of their cloud services as well. Today, I'm 100% Apple-free, happily playing MP3s from Bandcamp in my Emacs. :)
- HerbManic 4mo agoGood job, almost the full Stallman! ;) Stallman would never use an MP3 as it used to be a proprietary format.
- wodenokoto 4mo ago> I guess they lost the license and I'm supposed to download all purchases and manually copy between devices. That actually sounds very much like what you are supposed to do with a owned digital asset.