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Bro, are we reading the same book? The book is totally uncritical of the subject and paints him like the second coming of christ. It feels like GDM wanted a can

by moab 5mo ago

Bro, are we reading the same book? The book is totally uncritical of the subject and paints him like the second coming of christ. It feels like GDM wanted a canonization of Hassabis, and the writer simply obliged. Also, how does everything that GDM did keep coming back to some vague ideas in the guy's thesis? He is a great leader, no doubt, but him winning the Nobel Prize was just a huge joke. Out of all the heads of AI orgs out there, Dennis is the best, but the book did him a disservice by painting an unrealistically sunny picture of him as some kind of visionary figure.

AIorNot 5mo ago
Yeah hero worship and making into a villan is all part and parcel of the Nerd community these days Guys hes just one smart guy who got placed in a good moment in the AI technological revolution- hes def not the second coming of Christ
- threepts 4mo ago
  He statistically is the second coming of Christ Nobel and several breakthroughs in nature.
libraryofbabel 5mo ago
Not a “bro” (there are women on this site you know), and perhaps you’re missing the British understatement in my “maybe a little too uncritical of its subject” line. Obviously the book is totally biased in favor of Hassabis and Deepmind. That doesn’t mean it’s not an interesting read and that doesn’t mean the connection between his experience in the games industry and Deepmind’s early success isn’t there. And I think the book does highlight his most critical skill, which is projecting a Reality Distortion Field to get other smart people to believe in things he has in mind that are still very speculative bets. Like I already said, bias is inevitable in a book where the writer gets access (to the point of interviewing Hassabis in a North London pub every month), but the benefit to readers is that you do get a lot more insight into what makes the guy tick than you would in a book written by an outsider. I certainly learned a lot and just because I did doesn’t mean I’m buying into some cult of tech hero worship.
- jatora 5mo ago
  "bro" doesn't mean male in this context. It's just a general exclamation bro
  - erpellan 5mo ago
    Tell it like it is, sis.
    - mdp2021 5mo ago
      The problem with "sister" is that it is ambiguous, pls. see my parallel post.
  - libraryofbabel 5mo ago
    Oh wow, you blow my mind with your linguistic erudition; I had no idea it was possible to use male-gendered terms in a generic way! Well, all is forgiven, then. Seriously, just... don't? This isn’t some woke political thing and I dislike excessive policing of language but damn it, there are limits. "Guys" I'll let pass no problem, maybe even "dude" too on a good day. At "bro" I will take a stand, thank you very much.
    - andrew_lettuce 5mo ago
      how about Güey?
    - losvedir 5mo ago
      You're just showing your age. I can't stand it but my daughter says "Bro" to me and my wife. As a 40 year old Californian I've come to accept it as this generation's "dude" or "man" (as in "man, that sucks"), sadly.
      - saagarjha 5mo ago
        I feel like replying to someone who is being called something they don't want with "you're actually just old!" may not be a winning strategy
rl3 5mo ago
>Dennis is the best, but the book did him a disservice by painting an unrealistically sunny picture of him as some kind of visionary figure. Wait, 'unrealistically sunny'? You better not be talking about Dennis from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, because we're all screwed if so. Then again, the western AI landscape has become somewhat stale recently. Claude and Gemini may have cute names, but they all pale in comparison to The Golden God.
- rl3 5mo ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Always_Sunny_in_Philadelphia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Always_Sunny_in_Philade... ^ Educational resources for the ignorant that instead prefer to discuss the merits of the term "bro", at length.

by moab 5mo ago

AIorNot 5mo ago

Yeah hero worship and making into a villan is all part and parcel of the Nerd community these days Guys hes just one smart guy who got placed in a good moment in the AI technological revolution- hes def not the second coming of Christ

threepts 4mo ago
He statistically is the second coming of Christ Nobel and several breakthroughs in nature.

libraryofbabel 5mo ago

Not a “bro” (there are women on this site you know), and perhaps you’re missing the British understatement in my “maybe a little too uncritical of its subject” line. Obviously the book is totally biased in favor of Hassabis and Deepmind. That doesn’t mean it’s not an interesting read and that doesn’t mean the connection between his experience in the games industry and Deepmind’s early success isn’t there. And I think the book does highlight his most critical skill, which is projecting a Reality Distortion Field to get other smart people to believe in things he has in mind that are still very speculative bets. Like I already said, bias is inevitable in a book where the writer gets access (to the point of interviewing Hassabis in a North London pub every month), but the benefit to readers is that you do get a lot more insight into what makes the guy tick than you would in a book written by an outsider. I certainly learned a lot and just because I did doesn’t mean I’m buying into some cult of tech hero worship.

jatora 5mo ago
"bro" doesn't mean male in this context. It's just a general exclamation bro
- erpellan 5mo ago
  Tell it like it is, sis.
  - mdp2021 5mo ago
    The problem with "sister" is that it is ambiguous, pls. see my parallel post.
- libraryofbabel 5mo ago
  Oh wow, you blow my mind with your linguistic erudition; I had no idea it was possible to use male-gendered terms in a generic way! Well, all is forgiven, then. Seriously, just... don't? This isn’t some woke political thing and I dislike excessive policing of language but damn it, there are limits. "Guys" I'll let pass no problem, maybe even "dude" too on a good day. At "bro" I will take a stand, thank you very much.
  - andrew_lettuce 5mo ago
    how about Güey?
  - losvedir 5mo ago
    You're just showing your age. I can't stand it but my daughter says "Bro" to me and my wife. As a 40 year old Californian I've come to accept it as this generation's "dude" or "man" (as in "man, that sucks"), sadly.
    - saagarjha 5mo ago
      I feel like replying to someone who is being called something they don't want with "you're actually just old!" may not be a winning strategy

rl3 5mo ago

>Dennis is the best, but the book did him a disservice by painting an unrealistically sunny picture of him as some kind of visionary figure. Wait, 'unrealistically sunny'? You better not be talking about Dennis from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, because we're all screwed if so. Then again, the western AI landscape has become somewhat stale recently. Claude and Gemini may have cute names, but they all pale in comparison to The Golden God.

rl3 5mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Always_Sunny_in_Philadelphia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Always_Sunny_in_Philade... ^ Educational resources for the ignorant that instead prefer to discuss the merits of the term "bro", at length.