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They block the whole of Cloudflare R2, I believe the Docker hub is just (heh) a collateral. When the La Liga match starts, everything that's proxied via CF (in
by utrack 5mo ago
They block the whole of Cloudflare R2, I believe the Docker hub is just (heh) a collateral.
When the La Liga match starts, everything that's proxied via CF (including zero access reverse tunnels) stops working.
There's even a website made for checking if the match is on: https://hayahora.futbol/ https://hayahora.futbol/
You can check if your host is affected: https://hayahora.futbol/#comprobador&domain=docker-images-prod.6aa30f8b08e16409b46e0173d6de2f56.r2.cloudflarestorage.com https://hayahora.futbol/#comprobador&domain=docker-images-pr...
- mr_mitm 5mo agoWhy do they do that? Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.
- deleted 5mo ago[deleted]
- ShowalkKama 5mo agoto """"""""""prevent piracy""""""""""
- quadrifoliate 5mo agoHere's a good English-language article about it, with a timeline: https://daniel.es/blog/cloudflare-vs-la-liga/ https://daniel.es/blog/cloudflare-vs-la-liga/ Looks like same old regulatory capture.
- maest 5mo agoAlso, a classic tweet from the Cloudflare CEO re their fight with Italians authorities re censorship: https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/2009654937303896492 https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/2009654937303896492 Everyone looks bad in this conflict.
- post-it 5mo agoHow does this make Matthew look bad?
- encom 5mo agoMatt acting like he's a free speech absolutist. Hilarious.
- petcat 5mo agoItaly and Spain are the bad actors here. Not cloudflare.
- bethekidyouwant 5mo agoOn a scale of oppression he certainly leans towards free.
- gadders 5mo agoThat's like being slightly pregnant.
- nslsm 5mo agoHN in 2026: free speech is hilarious.
- encom 5mo agoYou have it backwards. I'm the free speech absolutist. Cloudflare is not.
- AgentME 5mo agoCalling on JD Vance and Elon as if they're known for a principled respect for free speech is crazy. It just reads as unnecessary propaganda or a poorly-disguised threat from powerful friends. I'm generally inclined to agree with Cloudflare here and the post makes me question that.
- prmoustache 5mo agoBecause LaLiga and football in general is what is governing Spain really.
- bakugo 5mo agoThe website has a language selector on the right just below the initial screen, just FYI.
- lentil_soup 5mo agoto stop people pirating football streams while matches are on. Insanity
- michaelt 5mo agoThe football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games. Pirates would rather not be blocked, so they create a new, disposable website for every game. Any blocking must happen fast. Cloudflare would rather not block websites without a court order specifying the sites to be blocked. The courts would rather not create a special fast lane through the courts, just to resolve a squabble between two huge corporations.
- n6242 5mo ago> The football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games. Funny enough, I work in IT and I've had to use a VPN to be able to do my job when soccer is on, but my two non-tech-savy family members that do watch soccer using pirate livestreams say that they've never had any issues with blocked streams.
- spwa4 5mo agoBut you must realize, the alternative to this is that some very wealthy Spanish companies ... lose a small amount of money. Surely you understand now. Go about your business, poor person.
- ryandrake 5mo agoThey don't even "lose a small amount of money." They simply gain less money than usual for a short period of time. Think of how rough that is for them.
- necovek 5mo agoI think it's even that they "gain less money than they could if everyone watching illegally would pay for it when they could not watch illegally" (that's usually how companies crying "piracy" calculate "losses" — "let's assume everyone watching illegally would certainly still watch it and pay the full price").
- joquarky 5mo ago
- otherme123 5mo agoThere are some sites that stream a pirate signal of the football matches, and they stream through Cloudflare proxied IPs. They share the IP with thousands if not millions of other sites. When the match starts, Movistar (a big ISP, but also a TV platform that streams legally football matches) sues itself in the following terms: "we, Movistar TV, demand that Movistar ISP blocks the following IPs that are being used to stream our matches illegally", on a special and urgent procedure. The judge tells Movistar-ISP to block the IP, which they do in seconds. Now replace Movistar with the biggest ISPs in Spain, and you have more than 80% of the country with Internet capped for hours (except if you know how to use some kind of tunneling) As the pirates share the IP with so many sites, because the IP is actually a Cloudflare proxy, a big chunk of the internet goes down. Users complains, and Movistar ask Cloudflare to block the real IP and spare the rest. Cloudflare says that they cannot legally do that as no judge actually told them to. Our Spanish judges are historically inept when talking about copyright, internet, file sharing and similar stuff. Some of them might be more updated, but there has been cases that they ordered some publications to surrender their lithographic plates, because a cover has to be retired as late as 2007 (https://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2007/07/20/espana/1184937587.html https://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2007/07/20/espana/1184937587....). So I don't think they understand much more about what is an IP other than "a IP is a number assigned to a computer". And Movistar is quite happy with that.
- sva_ 5mo agoAh man, that shader in the background is like a rite of passage for people including a shader on their website. https://www.shadertoy.com/view/lscczl https://www.shadertoy.com/view/lscczl
- aftbit 5mo agoAh the irony, I'm blocked from viewing that page by Cloudflare Performing security verification This website uses a security service to protect against malicious bots. This page is displayed while the website verifies you are not a bot. Incompatible browser extension or network configuration
- micw 5mo agoWho exactly is blocking and on what legal base? If it's Spanish ISPs and they are massively over blocking, why are there no legal actions against them? (E.g. for not fulfilling their contracts)
- Moldoteck 5mo agoFootball lobby is strong in Spanish political system. It's legal
- nikanj 5mo agoOn the one hand, you have money and famous footballers. On the other hand, you have a bunch of nerds whining about the internet being broken. The average voter (and politician) is out watching the soccer match, and doesn't care about the internet.
- eazel7 5mo agothen I think we should move all possible services to cloudflare maybe when nothing works for them they start to care
- landdate 5mo agoBoredom is a bigger issue than hunger or thirst for the average person living in one of these obscenely wealthy countries. For them, impeding entertainment is to impede nourishment. Of course, while anything that aids the entertainment industry is despicable, I do think obstructing the internet is a nice treat for humanity. The only down side is to your point about the relatively insignificance of the people effected (nerds).
- Parodper 5mo agoISP are blocking, because of a district judge's ruling.
- dariosalvi78 5mo agoit's institutional corruption at all levels, legislative, executive and judicial. A systemic failure that favour abnormous private profits over basic rights of the citizens. The effort required to change the situation is massive.
- jojobas 5mo agoGreat, time to proxy through AWS, Azure and GCP so that these muppets block Spain from everything.