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Hope we’ll do the same in germany.

Propelloni 5mo ago
There were and are initiatives. Of course, they were and are ridiculed all the time. Who can't recall LiMuX or check out ZenDIS (Zentrum für Digitale Souveränität in der öffentlichen Verwaltung). Read up on the current migration away from MS Office in Schleswig-Holstein.
newqer 5mo ago
They tried it a long time ago, but it seems to be rolled back to Windows again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux I hope our French friends can learn from this initiative during the adoption phase.
- mijoharas 5mo ago
  I seem to remember many people saying it was done by the mayor because Microsoft moved their German headquarters > Reiter denied that he had initiated the reversal in gratitude for Microsoft moving its German headquarters from Unterschleißheim back to Munich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
  - torginus 5mo ago
    I would say that's kind of a conspiracy-y explanation. Big companies in Munich either have their campuses on the outskirts of the city so that people can commute and park without flooding the city or they have it in the heart of the city as that is seen as more prestigious. Lots of companies have flip flopped based on this, and that's what happened in MS case. Tbh not saying MS didn't play dirty in general, but not necessarily in this.
  - radiator 5mo ago
    There exists a relevant, even German, quote: “Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.” ― Otto von Bismarck (first chancellor of Germany from 1871 to 1890)
- spacechild1 5mo ago
  > but it seems to be rolled back to Windows again. Apparently it was a decision by mayor Dieter Reiter after excessive lobbying by Microsoft. At roughly the same time, Microsoft moved their German headquarter back to Munich. What a coincidence...
- lonelyasacloud 5mo ago
  > I hope our French friends can learn from this initiative during the adoption phase. The apps are available now, so reasons to be optimistic. When LiMux and similar efforts happened around 2004 most business applications were Windows only. Even the ones that purported to be web used windows only technology and required IE and Windows. Now with years of business budget controlling types using their Macs and smart phones and wanting access to the their apps the majority - even MS's stuff - can be run well in a browser on almost any OS.
- tcfhgj 5mo ago
  "they" is a German city, not Germany
raincole 5mo ago
You did, and you'll do again. Just like quitting smoking.

There were and are initiatives. Of course, they were and are ridiculed all the time. Who can't recall LiMuX or check out ZenDIS (Zentrum für Digitale Souveränität in der öffentlichen Verwaltung). Read up on the current migration away from MS Office in Schleswig-Holstein.

newqer 5mo ago

They tried it a long time ago, but it seems to be rolled back to Windows again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux I hope our French friends can learn from this initiative during the adoption phase.

mijoharas 5mo ago
I seem to remember many people saying it was done by the mayor because Microsoft moved their German headquarters > Reiter denied that he had initiated the reversal in gratitude for Microsoft moving its German headquarters from Unterschleißheim back to Munich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
- torginus 5mo ago
  I would say that's kind of a conspiracy-y explanation. Big companies in Munich either have their campuses on the outskirts of the city so that people can commute and park without flooding the city or they have it in the heart of the city as that is seen as more prestigious. Lots of companies have flip flopped based on this, and that's what happened in MS case. Tbh not saying MS didn't play dirty in general, but not necessarily in this.
- radiator 5mo ago
  There exists a relevant, even German, quote: “Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.” ― Otto von Bismarck (first chancellor of Germany from 1871 to 1890)
spacechild1 5mo ago
> but it seems to be rolled back to Windows again. Apparently it was a decision by mayor Dieter Reiter after excessive lobbying by Microsoft. At roughly the same time, Microsoft moved their German headquarter back to Munich. What a coincidence...
lonelyasacloud 5mo ago
> I hope our French friends can learn from this initiative during the adoption phase. The apps are available now, so reasons to be optimistic. When LiMux and similar efforts happened around 2004 most business applications were Windows only. Even the ones that purported to be web used windows only technology and required IE and Windows. Now with years of business budget controlling types using their Macs and smart phones and wanting access to the their apps the majority - even MS's stuff - can be run well in a browser on almost any OS.
tcfhgj 5mo ago
"they" is a German city, not Germany

raincole 5mo ago

You did, and you'll do again. Just like quitting smoking.