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I would love to be on what amounts to a group ride to and from work safely. That has to do wonders for all kinds of things both physical and mental. If it were
by philamonster 6mo ago
I would love to be on what amounts to a group ride to and from work safely. That has to do wonders for all kinds of things both physical and mental. If it were safe I would do it year round.
- recursivegirth 6mo agoI would rather float to work like the Swiss. https://www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-workers-commute-by-floating-down-rivers-video-2023-7?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-workers-commute-...
- tw-20260303-001 6mo agoYeah, unless you’re a pedestrian. Cyclists in NL in cities like Utrecht or Amsterdam are worse than car drivers.
- david-gpu 6mo agoAs a pedestrian, I would rather risk a crash with a cyclist than with a car.
- tw-20260303-001 6mo agoAs a pedestrian I would hope that those cyclists remember when they’re pedestrians too. Both can kill you easily. But cars don’t sneak up on you silent from behind when you’re on a sidewalk.
- financetechbro 6mo agoUnless they’re EVs tho right
- tw-20260303-001 6mo agoYou reckon EVs drive on a sidewalk? Maybe you consider moving. Seems like you’re surrounded by idiots.
- aidenn0 6mo agoTwo of my neighbors were hit and killed by a car while walking on the sidewalk. The car was going in excess of 150km/h, hit the median, and swerved back, out of control into the sidewalk.
- hombre_fatal 6mo agoCars are only on an honor system to not hop the curb and murder you. At least you expect bikes on the sidewalk and can keep the risk in mind. There isn’t much you can do to prepare for the possibility of, say, an SUV vaporizing you and your family on the sidewalk because the 80yo driver zoned out. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/20/san-francisc https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/20/san-francisc...
- thrance 6mo ago> Both can kill you easily. What a ridiculous statement. Motorized vehicles are involved in the vast majority of road casualties. You are much, much more likely to die from a car accident than a bike accident.
- convolvatron 6mo agoas a former pedestrian only and bike rider for the last 5 years, we really do have to admit that bike riders can be real assholes. whether or not the level of injury is the same, it definitely feels an unwarranted physical threat to have a biker shoot past you from behind or run you down in the crosswalk.
- albedoa 6mo agoDo we have to admit that in this sub-thread? Your sentiment is better placed where we are not currently deriding the absurd take that "both can kill you easily". There is no recovery to be had here. > whether or not the level of injury is the same It is not the same.
- tw-20260303-001 6mo ago> There is no recovery to be had here. Of course there is. The world isn’t black and white. I said “could”, there are many shades of grey in between. Don’t be such an absolutist, like your truth is the truest one. > It is not the same. Well, … it depends, no?
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- convolvatron 6mo agosorry, I just really don't like this glib response that while I might be unnecessarily aggressive and threaten you, its not really not a problem since the likelihood that I'll actually _kill_ you is much lower than if I were the same idiot driving a car.
- david-gpu 6mo agoHave you looked at any actual data about the rate at which drivers and cyclists kill people in your area? Can you even find news about the last time a cyclist killed a pedestrian in your city? Because I keep an eye on the official Police stats in Toronto and it is eye-opening. Statistically, drivers kill people, and cyclists don't. It is not even remotely close.
- jay_kyburz 6mo agoJust a single anecdote, but one death made the papers here last year because it was an e-bike that hit and elderly gentleman. The e-bike had been modded and the media was suggesting the cyclist faced jail time as a result. (if I remember correctly)
- david-gpu 6mo agoTerrible news. How many people were killed by drivers since then? What happens when you look at a decade worth of data?
- Throaway1975123 6mo agoe bikes aren't supposed to go over 30kmph, or else they require a license as a motor vehicle.
- tw-20260303-001 6mo agoI don’t care about your stats. The fact is: cars move in their dedicated space. Most of them obey most of the traffic rules. Bicycles and scooters zoom past me on the sidewalk and it doesn’t make me feel safe. Neither having to jump over them on a sidewalk. I’m young, I can, but my mother cannot and it’s a problem for her. So take your stats and read them alone. Thanks, I take a car. I’m from the generation who doesn’t have their noses glued to mobile phone 24/7.
- david-gpu 6mo agoSorry to hear that your mom is struggling. It sounds like you are going through a lot.
- ndsipa_pomu 6mo agoMost collisions between cyclists and pedestrians end up with the cyclist getting more hurt. Also, the blame for collisions is slightly more attributed to pedestrians (e.g. walking across a cycle lane without looking). As I recall, pedestrians are more likely to be killed by a driver whilst on the pavement, so whilst collisions may be more frequent with cyclists, they are extremely unlikely to lead to a KSI.
- Rebelgecko 6mo agoHow often do cyclists kill pedestrians relative to drivers?