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I'll confess that I like my Meta Ray Ban glasses: I love using them to listen to podcasts at the pool/beach, while riding my bike, and it's cool to snap a quic
by chwahoo 7mo ago
I'll confess that I like my Meta Ray Ban glasses: I love using them to listen to podcasts at the pool/beach, while riding my bike, and it's cool to snap a quick picture of my kids without pulling out my phone.
I wish this article (or Meta) were a bit clearer about the specific connection between the device settings and use and when humans get access to the images.
My settings are:
- [OFF] "Share additional data" - Share data about your Meta devices to help improve Meta products.
- [OFF] "Cloud media" - Allow your photos and videos to be sent to Meta's cloud for processing and temporary storage.
I'm not sure whether my settings would prevent my media from being used as described in the article.
Also, it's not clear which data is being used for training:
- random photos / videos taken
- only use of "Meta AI" (e.g., "Hey Meta, can you translate this sign")
As much as I've liked my Meta Ray Ban's I'm going to need clarity here before I continue using them.
TBH, if it were only use of Meta AI, I'd "get it" but probably turn that feature off (I barely use it as-is).
- whiplash451 7mo agoYour setting is off cloud media until the company arbitrarily turns it on for you. Seems crazy now, won’t be ten years from now. They’re just boiling the frog all the way.
- levanten 7mo agoAfter all that has been revealed to us over the past 15 years, it is really disheartening to see people still thinking that setting a few toggles will prevent these companies from abusing them. Just continues to prove that if you solve a bit of inconvenience for them, people will let you exploit them and their families.
- voidUpdate 7mo agoBone conduction headphones let you listen to things while keeping your ears free, and don't upload your childrens photos to The Algorithm
- Lio 7mo agoI don’t know how anyone has the balls to wear them in public. They are creepy as fuck. I’m embarrassed to wear my non-Meta Raybans now. That logo is a liability.
- matsemann 7mo agoI'll confess I look at Meta Glasses the same as Google Glasses: A big sign saying "punch me in the face". If you enter some premises I'm in while wearing those, I'm either leaving or they will have to come off your face somehow. Wearing these glasses is just as obnoxious as walking around putting your phone in people's faces while recording.
- nedt 7mo agoIf it say "punch me in the face" then you have bigger problems. And after you got recorded showing what it says to you they might be growing. Tell them what you think but don't forget "Pretty, I feel pretty, ..." - just in case.
- matsemann 7mo agoYour thinly veiled threat of using the glasses to record and then publish interactions to harass people is exactly why lots of people have issues with these glasses...
- alliao 7mo agoi don't trust the zuck at all, and am not naive about any of this. I'm sure the words used above are watertight in court of law but I bet you there are shenanigans in places where light don't reach
- croes 7mo agoIn the future your kids could sue you for uploading their pictures.
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- zhubert 7mo agoSo you believe that you are in control?
- chwahoo 7mo agoI think the most likely case is: this company is labeling images from meta AI use from people who opted-in to share their data with Meta. It's certainly possible that it's something much more surprising / sinister, but there is a fairly logical combination of settings that I could see a company could argue lets them use the data for training. I'm also very certain that few users with these settings would expect the images to be shown to actual people, so I'm not defending Meta.
- roughly 7mo agoWhat in Meta's history would lead you to give them the benefit of the doubt like this?
- chwahoo 7mo agoPerhaps I'm ignorant. I know some of the criticism of Meta: many people don't like the way their products are optimized for engagement. I've heard about their weird AI bots interacting on their platform as if they were people. And I know people of all political stripes have had complaints about content moderation and their algorithm. But all of that is within the bounds of the law and their terms of service. None of it would remotely approach something like: bypassing the well-advertised features in the glasses that show when the camera is in use and secretly recording things to train AI. It's hard to imagine any company's lawyers approving something like that. (this sounds like what many commenters believe is happening) FWIW, I suspect this is the relevant section of the Privacy policy: > "When you use the Meta AI service on your AI Glasses (if available for your device), we use your information, like Media and audio recordings of your voice to provide the service." from: https://www.meta.com/legal/privacy-policy/ https://www.meta.com/legal/privacy-policy/ if so, "to provide the service" is doing a lot of work
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- huddert 7mo agoDo you take them off in the bathroom? Or if the wife is feeling spontaneous?
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- chwahoo 7mo agoThey're sunglasses so I mainly wear them outside.
- mylifeandtimes 7mo agowhy do you think taking them off turns them off?
- WithinReason 7mo agoThe wife or the glasses?
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- koakuma-chan 7mo agohttps://zuckmail.vercel.app/t/harvard-dumb-fucks https://zuckmail.vercel.app/t/harvard-dumb-fucks
- awesomeusername 7mo agowow, what a cnut
- shriek 7mo agoA simple on/off toggle isn't going to prevent them from using your data. If your data is in their server then it's going to be used one way or another. Whether in an anonymous way or shipped to where there are no privacy laws.
- tux1968 7mo agoYou might enjoy these conveniences now, but this is just the pre-enshitification stage. Soon enough, to take advantage of those features you will have advertisements integrated into your view, and your data will be scraped for whatever its worth to Meta.
- dbreunig 7mo agoLast year they pushed out an update stating if any “Meta AI” is left on, they can access image data for training, I turned the AI off and used them as headphones and taking videos while biking. After a couple rides, I couldn’t bring myself to put them on because people started to recognize them and I realized I didn’t want to be associated with them (people are right to assume Meta has access to what they see). Meta Ray Bans, if kept simple, could have been a great product. They ruined them.
- sheiyei 7mo agoI think public shaming of that spyware should be a social norm.
- SoftTalker 7mo agoThose settings are IMO likely not doing what you think they are. Or might be doing strictly, precisely what they say they are. [OFF] "Share data about your Meta devices to help improve Meta products." doesn't preclude sharing data for other purposes. [OFF] "Allow your photos and videos to be sent to Meta's cloud for processing and temporary storage." doesn't preclude sending them to Meta's cloud for permanent storage.
- sheiyei 7mo agoAnd nothing is actually preventing Meta from doing what you refuse anyway. They might get caught, but what are you going to do?
- greentea23 7mo agoI don't understand how a parent can be OK non-consenually uploading pictures of their children's real faces to an ad driven AI company famous for abusing people's data and manipulating children on their platforms.
- echelon 7mo agoI don't get how private businesses allow these. It's as creepy as Google Glass, yet we don't see the same pushback. Is it because younger people don't care about privacy anymore?
- dataflow 7mo agoAs creepy? It's way creepier than Google Glass.
- RobotToaster 7mo agoGoogle glass was more a victim of it's time, normies weren't used to everyone carrying a camera everywhere back then.
- dmschulman 7mo agoGoogle Glass failed because they made the user look like they were wearing a high tech computer on their face ala Dragon Ball Z. It looked odd. Meta and Snap learned from this, but it had nothing to do with smartphone cameras not being part of daily life. The first iPhone was 2007. Google Glass came out in 2013
- monegator 7mo agothey are raybans. glassholes were ugly and quirky.
- zer0zzz 7mo agoThe youths literally do not care from what I observe. How many people under 25 do you interact with on a day to day basis?