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The New Grooveshark
- munyukim 14y agoThe interface looks a lot cleaner. Good work.
- zobzu 14y agomy fav ui is still html5.grooveshark.com tho
- johnx123-up 14y agoMy Android keeps auto stopping after current song... probably, due to screen power saving(?)
- wanderr 14y agoYeah unfortunately this is a browser thing. We are actively searching for hacks/workarounds but haven't found anything yet. In fact it's even worse with the Chrome browser, music stops playing the second you lock the screen. :(
- rndstr 14y agoIt does not do last.fm scrobbling, though. Sent them an email about it a few days ago.
- martinwnet 14y agoDoes the default Grooveshark site let you scrobble to last.fm? If so, how do you do it?
- ricardobeat 14y agoYes. Might be a VIP feature, I'm not sure.
- Ronwe 14y agoyep, just go to the profile settings, under "connect accounts" tab you can connect it with your last.fm account.
- martinwnet 14y agoExcellent, I learned something new, thanks.
- precisioncoder 14y agoI don't notice any difference in the ui but I guess that's because I'm never logged in, if I want to share music I usually just send a new artist to my friends manually. Speed has increased though which is very nice, good work!
- atarian 14y agoHow is Grooveshark still in business? Weren't they having a lot of issues with copyright?
- bookwormAT 14y agoyes, like youtube and the piratebay. ;)
- lewisflude 14y agoLooks a little bootstrappy.
- robertnealan 14y agoSeems like there's a few issues with sections expanding to 100% of the available width within the main centered container. If anything they should just have the centered container expand to the full width of the screen a-la Netflix to make use of maximum screen real estate (not that I condone Netflix's obscene use of use of hover events to scroll sideways). Screenshot for reference (1440x900): http://cl.ly/image/1r2906063g20 http://cl.ly/image/1r2906063g20 A great improvement over the old interface, but still has some room to improve.
- moystard 14y agoLooks clean, and seems to be faster as well. Only regret, they are still using flash for audio: would have been nice to use HTML5 like with html5.grooveshark.com.
- cowpewter 14y agoWe use it for a lot more than that, actually. Cross-domain request support that works even in browsers that don't do CORS, and a persistent socket connection to our servers that takes care of all the new awesome real-time social stuff (so we don't have to poll). Seeing what your friends are playing in real-time in the sidebar is just the beginning. We have a lot more stuff planned that uses that functionality.
- onli 14y agoWhen not having flash installed, the site popups a dialog suggesting to go to html5.grooveshark.com "for a flash-free experience". When clicking that link, the browser gets redirected to grooveshark.com and the dialog popups again. Chrome 20.0.1132.47 Ubuntu 12.04
- cowpewter 14y agoThanks for the bug report, I'll look into it. Edit: Can't reproduce on my machine. Can you clear any cookies related to Grooveshark and try it? I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the cookies we're using to direct people to the new interface.
- onli 14y agoI deleted all cookies and the issue remains. ... I think I got it. For unblocking youtube-videos which are heavily censored here in Germany, I have the extension Proxmate installed. Which offers access to Grooveshark, which I just noticed. Without it, I can't even access the site, so it's safe to assume the extension is responsible, probably detecting the blockade and redirecting. A shame you geocensor your site :( But sorry for the false bugreport.
- Axsuul 14y agoTook a look at the code. It's built with Backbone.js!
- cowpewter 14y agoYup! The previous version used JMVC but it was a poor fit. Backbone does juuuust enough to help you out then gets out of your way. Means you have to write a lot of your own architecture but that's pretty much my favorite thing to do ever (and I hated JMVC) so I gladly did so. The site is way faster now, despite having more stuff going on, just because half the codebase is no longer trying to hack around the parts of JMVC we didn't need.
- Axsuul 14y agoDid you ever look into using something like LayoutManager or Marionette?
- cowpewter 14y agoNo, after JMVC I just wanted to write it to work the way we wanted it to work without dealing with yet another framework.
- tkone 14y ago+1. I was using marionette, but again, it's buying into an entire system. I ended up writing my own lightweight (15 lines?) version of their region manager and use that now. (Marionette is a great project though!)
- jashkenas 14y agoHey cowpewter -- I'd love to have you write up your experience for http://backbonejs.org/#examples http://backbonejs.org/#examples ... email me a paragraph if you're interested. Edit: One tip for you as well. I noticed that you're using "#!" in your URL routes. You probably don't want to be doing that these days -- either just plain "#" works, or pushState with hybrid server-side renders if you want to be indexed by search engines.
- Joe-Z 14y agounfortunately it's blocked in germany (due to "unreasonably high cost of operation"). does anyone know if this has something to do with the GEMA (which also won't let us watch so many youtube-videos in germany)?
- thomaslutz 14y agoAnd still not available in Germany anymore thanks to GEMA. I use Spotify now.
- thirdsun 14y agoI think the GEMA should be their smallest problem given the amount of illegal content they keep offering. In my opinion they should have been shut down by now.
- thomaslutz 14y agoGrooveshark or Spotify?
- ccozan 14y agoworks just fine with proxies ( see xroxy ). Listening right now to it, from the very Germany. Same with youtube, etc. GEMA cannot enforce this at all, just normal people are collateral victims, as usual.
- ssebro 14y agoI love it. Grooveshark now has the best digital music browsing experience, IMHO.
- mtgx 14y agoThey should use that OPUS codec soon, and give up Flash completely.
- jitbit 14y agoMusic recommendation/discovery feature - finally!
- jasonkester 14y agoI've never used this site before, so I can't comment on how it used to work. This interface is not at all intuitive though. - click a play button on a song - music starts playing - click a different play button - nothing happens - click pause - music stops - click a different play button - nothing happens - click play - first song continues playing Steps to get a second song to actually play after you've got a first one playing: - find the word Queue (non-underlined, not a button) in the lower right - click it - click "clear queue" - hit the back button (for some reason, the page has navigated away) - click the play button on a song I can understand how they want it to work, after plenty of frustration just trying to listen to some songs. But they've clearly been spending way too much time with it internally without showing it to real world users. Expectation: clicking the play button on a song plays the song. Suggestion: make all this "queueing" stuff be something you opt into, after deciding that you want it and learning how it's supposed to work. Or at the very least add a second play button per song that actually plays the song. EDIT: I just found the link to see the old interface, and despite the above, this new interface is a million times better. The old interface was an empty box saying "what song do you want to hear?" I have no f'ng clue what song I want to hear. I'm on your site so that you can show me some cool new music that I might want to hear. Every link on that old interface leads to an empty screen saying basically "go away, you uncultured, non-music-knowing-about person and don't come back until you've researched enough about music to add some songs to your collection." This new look comes across more like "check out all this music. It's all good, so come in and play around". Much better way to greet newcomers to your site.
- wturner 14y agoAfter reading everything you wrote I immediately thought..damn that must be a really horrible website navigation nightmare. So I went to the website, searched for an artist and dragged it. Then I played it. Then ..(cringe)..I did it....again. In summary, as of the moment of this post, the small scale nuclear holocaust of complexity you have described apparently lay dormant. My experience was actually kind of boring. Edit* I see what is happening. There are a couple of paths users can take based on if they click or drag items, and I just so happened to take the smoothest one.
- risratorn 14y agoToo bad they can't get their iOS app through the apple approval process. It would be a serious contender to Spotify.
- LinaLauneBaer 14y agoI am pretty sure that they can't get the approval from Apple because they cannot prove that they have the rights to publish the content.
- risratorn 14y agoIndeed, i'm not saying apple is unfair but it's just a pity we don't have a native ios app, despite the legal affairs of grooveshark. There is a cydia version though :)
- dan1234 14y agoThey would have a significant financial advantage over Spotify, who pay a large sum to licence the music they carry. Weren't they also yanked from the Google Play store?
- BitMastro 14y agoYes, you can download the app from http://mobile.grooveshark.com/android http://mobile.grooveshark.com/android
- officemonkey 14y agoTheir webpage for iOS devices is actually serviceable. I primarily use Grooveshark to find tunes I can't find on Youtube, Spotify, Amazon, or iTunes (I listen to a lot of import Jazz and 60s French pop.) For the dozen times a year I fire it up on my iOS device, it performs well.
- invisible 14y agoGive http://html5.grooveshark.com http://html5.grooveshark.com a try (or just http://grooveshark.com http://grooveshark.com on your phone)!
- TimSchumann 14y agoJust played around with it a bit. Looks like a more cluttered version of Soundcloud without as engaging of a social aspect. Used to use it all the time though.
- jimm 14y agoI went to grooveshark.com and looked at the page for a few seconds. When I went to close the tab, a JavaScript popup asked me if I was sure that I wanted to "navigate away". Why, oh why does Grooveshark think that was useful, necessary, or a good way to treat a user?
- edoloughlin 14y agoLooks like it's to catch the case where you've got music playing and inadvertently close the tab. There should probably be a check to make sure you've actually got something playing in your queue.
- cowpewter 14y agoWe do that when you have music playing and we also currently do it in the first 30 seconds of loading the page as an awful hack around some completely crappy ads that force redirects that have gotten into our ad networks. It's just in there until we can get the ad problem fixed.
- mmahemoff 14y agoI do something similar on my own site, but the difference is it only kicks in if playing has started. I think they have the right intention, but they need to add an if statement in their window.onbeforeunload hook. (Edit - I see Grooveshark said they only do it for the first 30 seconds of the site loading as a workaround.) I haven't had any complaints about it and personally find it useful. Especially as it lets me quickly "close all right tabs" without stopping to think if I'm about to break what I'm listening to. However, these are podcasts and maybe people are less fussed about a random song stopping halfway through.
- alan_cx 14y agoNever used the site before, I gave it a go. What I wanted to find, I could not find. What I did find, the sound quality was, to me, awful. Maybe its just my taste in music and ears, but for me, still a long way to go.
- ubermensche 14y agoCurious as to what you were looking for but was missing? I've noticed over the last year more 'obscure' artists starting to appear, and less '0 results' searches - though this is mainly electronica, so maybe holes elsewhere.
- BitMastro 14y agoI think it depends on how much widespread is what you want to find. Personally I would rather see people use this service, than playing low quality videos on youtube.
- sergiotapia 14y agoYes, you need a 90MB FLAC file to hear all those "decibels bro". http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/06/concluding-the-great-mp3-bitrate-experiment.html http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/06/concluding-the-grea... http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/04/mp3-or-lossless-see-if-you-can-hear-the-difference-with-this-test/ http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/04/mp3-or-lossless-see-if-...
- fireflash38 14y agoWhile yes, that is true, it doesn't necessarily apply to this circumstance. The person you replied to might have played a song by an artist that was an inferior copy uploaded by another user.
- wanderr 14y agoWe restrict uploads to a minimum of 128kbps and prefer 192kbps if it's available. It is of course possible for someone to transcode a 64kbps file up to 128 or 192kbps to make us play something that truly sounds awful, but based on my own personal listening that doesn't seem to be the case often, if ever, in practice.
- Angostura 14y agoI actually found the interface smooth and intuitive. One gotcha, however. Selecting a video to play while a song is already playing produces a broken UX for me - the video appeared in a modal box, but was truncated by the queue and play bars at the bottom of the screen. There was no obvious way to view the whole video since the controls at the bottom were hidden.
- dsirijus 14y agoI'm VIP user on GS for 3 years now. The interface was just downhill ever since they've switched from Flash. And not only that, but this thing hogs entire CPU sometimes. Android app is pretty sweet, though it didn't received update in quite a while. Btw, you can be on the edge all the time on http://preview.grooveshark.com http://preview.grooveshark.com Not only that but they've broke the promise that they'll be always free (they're not in a lot of countries) and a promise to keep my VIP subscription cost permamently at what I've subscribed too. I'm still a whore and use them as my primary source of music though, so I guess I endorse them. EDIT: No, they've actually kept the original pricing. My mistake.
- wanderr 14y agoGS dev here, you should be grandfathered at the old price, if that's not the case for you then we goofed! If you contact support@grooveshark.com they should be able to get that corrected for you. :)
- dsirijus 14y agoActually, no, everything's fine. My mistake, editing the original complaint now.
- krsunny 14y agoIs html5.grooveshark.com going away any time soon? Ive been using that for a while on my phone and it works pretty good.
- wanderr 14y agoNo way! We just put a ton of blood, sweat and tears into it, and we're not done. :)
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- Radix_ 14y agoThis is a wonderful update. I'll allow that it takes a moment to understand that the playlist along the lower edge should be thought of separately from the navigation it really only takes a moment. And the new front page opening is much more welcoming and I'd say the subtle addition of the (+) on the play symbol is enough of a cue. I never liked seeing the adverts page, so big and open, and found the old left hand navigation cluttered, useless, and to be ignored. But I'm happy to see that everything flows better now and like everything about it. The artist overview looks much better now that the bio has been added and only a few album covers are showcased followed by a list of the artists most frequented songs. Which is what I want to see. I was always annoyed by the Activity Feed for taking up the space which ought to have been granted to Top Songs. My favorite change is the large Share Song invitation seen after clicking on a song. I'd really like to see Grooveshark replace YouTube for non-video music streaming and linking and I hope making that link so prominent will make it happen. I do have a couple questions though. As someone who doesn't have an account I didn't see a link to add music and if I wasn't familiar with Grooveshark I wouldn't even know that was an option. Also I was wondering why the Artists Top Songs and Comments aren't switched when viewing a single song. And last, I noticed the radio button has been tucked away nicely. Since it's a switch would you consider leaving the menu up for a half second? That may be an awful idea but switches are meant to be seen and felt so I thought I'd mention it just the same. edit: Since I was praising the quick sharing might as well: http://grooveshark.com/s/Do+Ya+Thang/4wvNTg?src=5 http://grooveshark.com/s/Do+Ya+Thang/4wvNTg?src=5
- grosbisou 14y agoI love Grooveshark and this redesign is really nice. It clears out a lot of the menu and features. But the MyMusic page is really messy... I hope it's a bug because it's barely usable (http://i.imgur.com/TAzxG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TAzxG.jpg)
- meunier 14y agoIt seems like there's no ordered sorting. I can't say sort my library by track and then by album to you know... play songs in order unless I select a specific album and sort on that. Not especially straightforward.
- invisible 14y agoThis is definitely a missing feature/bug - we'll address it as soon as possible.
- alainbryden 14y agoI'm a frequent user, and I am really liking this design. Change is always a little difficult to get used to, but I'm finding it snappier. The "Playlists" screen doesn't seem to be working. I tried visiting it and the spinner's been going for a long time. I only have about 20. I also right clicked a song and clicked 'Add to Playlist' > 'New Playlist' and it said it was created, but when I right clicked another song, the new playlist wasn't available in the list of my playlists. I said 'New Playlist' again and typed in the same thing, and it created it again. I clicked the button to view the new playlist and it only had the one song in it, so it must have overwritten what I'd just created. Dragging songs into the playlist is working fine, but I have no idea if it's getting saved, since I can't view the "My Playlists" page, and it's not showing up in the context menu listing my playlists. Anyways, hope this helps you do some debugging in the area.
- pixie_ 14y agoHow grooveshark remains in business blows my mind. They must have super lawyers, and super investors to pay them.
- mrinterweb 14y agoThe only feature I was looking for was "Now with less legal issues". I have used Grooveshark a lot, but songs would keep disappearing due to DMCA take downs. They have a very innovative HTML5 web app and I love their selection, but there is a little too much legal grey ground for me to invest my long term usage in their service.
- zoowar 14y agoWhen I visit the site from firefox I receive an SELinux notice. "SELinux is preventing /usr/lib64/xulrunner-2/plugin-container from name_connect access on the tcp_socket" [for port 81] Also, my firewall is blocking the app from connecting to 8.20.213.43:843
- wanderr 14y agoNot sure about port 843, but port 81 is for our chat server that allows you to see realtime updates to the sidebar showing what your friends are listening to. We will probably end up moving that over to port 80 so we don't end up triggering blocks like this.
- laserDinosaur 14y agoI'm really liking the new interface, but damn that's a lot of wasted space. Trying to click through songs is like looking through a pin hole. Why is it all so small?
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