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GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

89 points by truxs 8mo ago

theragra 8mo ago
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dahrkael 8mo ago
GOG's business relies on Windows going above and beyond to remain retrocompatible with older versions of itself so trashing on it feels like a shitty move
- freetonik 8mo ago
  Surprisingly, Linux-based distros often have better chances of running old games compared to Windows.
- fgonzag 8mo ago
  wine is probably better for backwards compatibility than modern windows / microsoft.
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deterministic 8mo ago
I am perfectly happy with Windows 10 and want to throw my work Linux PC out the nearest window almost every day because of Linux package dependency hell. I work on different application and are pretty much forced to setup a specific Linux VM for each one to not have package dependency problems. I never had that problem developing on Windows.
rolph 8mo ago
any word on GOG offering links to upgrade to linux, i think it would speed things up, right now we are almost at the part where the mortally wounded leviathan trashes everything about in its final death throes. it really would be nice for early emancipators to have a comfortable landing, and avoid being subject to collateral damage.
- TheCycoONE 8mo ago
  I suspect they would put out a GOG Galaxy that works on Linux well before promoting it on their web site that aggressively.
  - rolph 8mo ago
    im thinking a GOG box distro [like a KODI box] so there would be less compromise in order to be an OS, and focus on a more console-like UX. im thinking it doesnt have to work "on linux" it has to allow gaming on a linux kernal.
- tracker1 8mo ago
  I'm not familiar enough beyond casual use of Steam on Linux and a few one-offs to know the current state of gaming... but can only posit that a GoG installer/launcher for Linux that uses Proton (like Steam) wouldn't hurt.
  - mepian 8mo ago
    There is the Heroic Game Launcher that also interfaces with the Epic Games Store.
    - oldnetguy 8mo ago
      To me GOG needs a big picture mode like Steam. I want my PC to act like a console and that would help a lot
      - Grisu_FTP 8mo ago
        Why not just add the GOG games to Steam as non Steam games? Isnt that better anyway than having to launch GOG from the Steam BPM just to launch a game from their BPM? Why would i want to launch a seperate launcher to launch my games?
  - epakai 8mo ago
    This is pretty much what Lutris does. I'm using it with already downloaded GOG installers, and Lutris' crowd-sourced install scripts. It looks like they do account integration, so it might be possible to directly download and install games. It can run things with regular wine or proton installed by steam. There is a lot of complexity compared to Steam or the GOG client.
legitster 8mo ago
So part of me agrees, but part of me also feels like a victim of the boy who cried wolf. People have ragged on Windows going back for as long as I can remember. Only in hindsight did people ever express fondness in public for Windows XP (and maybe a bit for Windows 7). It's hard for me to distinguish how much of the vitriol is legitimate this time from developers, or will nostalgia glasses just haunt Windows forever. I've been using Windows 11 and... it feels fine? If anything, it doesn't feel substantially different enough from Windows 10 to care. My other comparison points are a Macbook and a Steam Deck, and both of them have so many faults of their own that I don't understand the need to rag on Windows in particular.
- pathartl 8mo ago
  It's an unpopular opinion, but I genuinely believe that 11 is the best version of Windows yet. I've been using computers for 30 years and you're right, everyone has _always_ complained about Windows. The only reason people have a fondness for XP is because it was pretty much the world's first Windows. It's the OS that was used to connect the world, and IE being (for the time) the competent browser played a huge role in that.
  - digitalPhonix 8mo ago
    What do you think it does better than 10? There are plenty of things that Windows 11 does well, but for me they’re all things that 10 also did well. Most of the things that annoy me in 11 however were not also in 10.
    - pathartl 8mo ago
      I know many items in this list can apply to both, but I've been maining 11 since release and going back to pre-11 builds of 10 genuinely feels like a downgrade: - Windows Terminal is great - Settings now covers almost everything, I haven't had to actually go into Control Panel in years - Explorer has tabs! - The new context menu loads in items asynchronously. Some people hate it, but I remember how apps would abuse the context menu and bring my PC to a crawl. - The CPU scheduler is genuinely insanely better with big/little CPUs - Scaling with windows and monitor management is better - Auto HDR - Updated notepad is actually kinda good - Updated paint is actually kinda good - Built in WinGet is chefs kiss - I actually love Fluent design Again, some of these are on 10, but on 11 it feels like more of a tighter package.
joe_guy 8mo ago
> would you like to purchase an Office 365 subscription? No? Okay I'll ask again tomorrow), Ironic, given their website showed me two unrequested popups.
- 3eb7988a1663 8mo ago
  I keep hoping the EU comes out with a "No Means No" legislation to end this "Ask Again Later" nonsense. Tricky to thread the needle on what would/not be allowed, but the pattern has been abused long enough. Maybe even saying it cannot re-ask for 30 days would be a significant improvement.

89 points by truxs 8mo ago

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GOG's business relies on Windows going above and beyond to remain retrocompatible with older versions of itself so trashing on it feels like a shitty move

freetonik 8mo ago
Surprisingly, Linux-based distros often have better chances of running old games compared to Windows.
fgonzag 8mo ago
wine is probably better for backwards compatibility than modern windows / microsoft.

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deterministic 8mo ago

I am perfectly happy with Windows 10 and want to throw my work Linux PC out the nearest window almost every day because of Linux package dependency hell. I work on different application and are pretty much forced to setup a specific Linux VM for each one to not have package dependency problems. I never had that problem developing on Windows.

rolph 8mo ago

any word on GOG offering links to upgrade to linux, i think it would speed things up, right now we are almost at the part where the mortally wounded leviathan trashes everything about in its final death throes. it really would be nice for early emancipators to have a comfortable landing, and avoid being subject to collateral damage.

TheCycoONE 8mo ago
I suspect they would put out a GOG Galaxy that works on Linux well before promoting it on their web site that aggressively.
- rolph 8mo ago
  im thinking a GOG box distro [like a KODI box] so there would be less compromise in order to be an OS, and focus on a more console-like UX. im thinking it doesnt have to work "on linux" it has to allow gaming on a linux kernal.
tracker1 8mo ago
I'm not familiar enough beyond casual use of Steam on Linux and a few one-offs to know the current state of gaming... but can only posit that a GoG installer/launcher for Linux that uses Proton (like Steam) wouldn't hurt.
- mepian 8mo ago
  There is the Heroic Game Launcher that also interfaces with the Epic Games Store.
  - oldnetguy 8mo ago
    To me GOG needs a big picture mode like Steam. I want my PC to act like a console and that would help a lot
    - Grisu_FTP 8mo ago
      Why not just add the GOG games to Steam as non Steam games? Isnt that better anyway than having to launch GOG from the Steam BPM just to launch a game from their BPM? Why would i want to launch a seperate launcher to launch my games?
- epakai 8mo ago
  This is pretty much what Lutris does. I'm using it with already downloaded GOG installers, and Lutris' crowd-sourced install scripts. It looks like they do account integration, so it might be possible to directly download and install games. It can run things with regular wine or proton installed by steam. There is a lot of complexity compared to Steam or the GOG client.

legitster 8mo ago

So part of me agrees, but part of me also feels like a victim of the boy who cried wolf. People have ragged on Windows going back for as long as I can remember. Only in hindsight did people ever express fondness in public for Windows XP (and maybe a bit for Windows 7). It's hard for me to distinguish how much of the vitriol is legitimate this time from developers, or will nostalgia glasses just haunt Windows forever. I've been using Windows 11 and... it feels fine? If anything, it doesn't feel substantially different enough from Windows 10 to care. My other comparison points are a Macbook and a Steam Deck, and both of them have so many faults of their own that I don't understand the need to rag on Windows in particular.

pathartl 8mo ago
It's an unpopular opinion, but I genuinely believe that 11 is the best version of Windows yet. I've been using computers for 30 years and you're right, everyone has _always_ complained about Windows. The only reason people have a fondness for XP is because it was pretty much the world's first Windows. It's the OS that was used to connect the world, and IE being (for the time) the competent browser played a huge role in that.
- digitalPhonix 8mo ago
  What do you think it does better than 10? There are plenty of things that Windows 11 does well, but for me they’re all things that 10 also did well. Most of the things that annoy me in 11 however were not also in 10.
  - pathartl 8mo ago
    I know many items in this list can apply to both, but I've been maining 11 since release and going back to pre-11 builds of 10 genuinely feels like a downgrade: - Windows Terminal is great - Settings now covers almost everything, I haven't had to actually go into Control Panel in years - Explorer has tabs! - The new context menu loads in items asynchronously. Some people hate it, but I remember how apps would abuse the context menu and bring my PC to a crawl. - The CPU scheduler is genuinely insanely better with big/little CPUs - Scaling with windows and monitor management is better - Auto HDR - Updated notepad is actually kinda good - Updated paint is actually kinda good - Built in WinGet is chefs kiss - I actually love Fluent design Again, some of these are on 10, but on 11 it feels like more of a tighter package.

joe_guy 8mo ago

> would you like to purchase an Office 365 subscription? No? Okay I'll ask again tomorrow), Ironic, given their website showed me two unrequested popups.

3eb7988a1663 8mo ago
I keep hoping the EU comes out with a "No Means No" legislation to end this "Ask Again Later" nonsense. Tricky to thread the needle on what would/not be allowed, but the pattern has been abused long enough. Maybe even saying it cannot re-ask for 30 days would be a significant improvement.