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The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously
by gbhdrew 10mo ago
The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.
- vardump 10mo agoNot only Cybertruck. Also other trucks like Ford F150 etc.
- dymk 10mo agoTrucks in general are awful for pedestrians and other motorists, but the Cybertruck is made specifically of sharp angles that will rip and tear more than a big flat vertical wall running into you.
- babylon5 10mo agoThe front is rounded which is the place you'll hit in the vast majority of cases.
- rishabhaiover 10mo agoclear case of bias infecting judgment.
- Aloisius 10mo agoPickup trucks aren't flat vertical walls like a semi though. They are a high wall with a hood. While "sharp" edge can certainly break bones, getting hit with a high hood causes people to slam their head into the hood with very little travel time compared to a low hood. Head injuries are far more likely to cause death. Of course, the risk varies based on height. Sharp edges a couple feet off the ground are far more dangerous to someone only a couple feet tall.
- dzhiurgis 10mo agoBuses are terrible too
- xethos 10mo agoNow account for how many vehicles we can get off the road if we have proper bus service, and the impact on pedestrians and cyclists. Or consider the licensing requirements (class 2 + an air brake endorsement here in BC), and how difficult it is to buy, and store, a 40' bus, compared to any modern truck. This is a daft comparison that only serves to muddy the waters, and attempts to excuse excessively large modern trucks
- Mawr 10mo agoA bus provides equivalent utility to maybe 20-40 cars and is driven by a professional driver, so I'm not too worried.
- standardUser 10mo agoUnlike Ford trucks, the cybertruck isn't even street legal in Europe due to its anti-human design. They are not the same.
- mingus88 10mo agoGood luck with that. This is the CEOs pet project, who spent 3mo openly and directly dismantling regulatory groups in the U.S. while at the same time threatening to pull out of key defense and aerospace initiatives if the poor guy didn’t get his way
- rishabhaiover 10mo agoI wish we had more respect for innovation.
- mingus88 10mo agoI’m sorry, are you suggesting that Musk is an innovator?
- CamperBob2 10mo agoAre you suggesting he's not? That's utterly crazy. The problem isn't that he isn't an innovator, the problem is that not all of his innovations are good ideas. He's the leader of an innovative cult, if nothing else.
- fainpul 10mo agoIt's not legal in europe.
- aktuel 10mo agoSame as rat poison, coming 2026...
- b112 10mo ago2028.. Europe starves...
- testing22321 10mo agoNeither are many vehicles sold in the US. That doesn’t tell us much.
- iainmerrick 10mo agoI’m not sure if you mean to imply that most US vehicles aren’t sold in Europe, but I don’t think that’s the case -- there are plenty of US cars in Europe (including Teslas, although they’re going rapidly out of fashion).
- Peanuts99 10mo agoI don't think any US cars are capable of being sold without a whole heap of changes. US cars in Europe have been modified to meet the regulations. Same of course for European cars in the US.
- iainmerrick 10mo agoRight, I just meant that for most popular US car models, the manufacturers do all the checks and modifications needed to sell a European variant, but that's specifically not the case for the Cybertruck. Either the design is fundamentally incompatible with European regulations, or they just don't think there's market demand. But note that other US truck do sell in Europe and the UK, e.g. the F-150. There's something special about the Cybertruck. The special thing seems to be that it's a lemon.
- iso1631 10mo ago> the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash Isn't that the selling point?
- WanderPanda 10mo agoMechanically sure, but I still feel way safer when a Tesla (of any kind) is approaching me as a pedestrian or bicyclist than any other vehicle (except maybe Waymo) because I know they will alert the driver and brake if necessary. Any other car, especially older trucks, I'm quite afraid of, based on experience.
- maxeda 10mo agoGiven the amount of pedestrians that have been killed by Telsas in "autopilot" mode, I can't say that I agree.
- vardump 10mo agoCould you give me some numbers about deaths caused by Tesla versus other brands per mile driven? It seems to be very difficult to find enough information to draw any conclusions.
- ben_w 10mo agoI believe the only information is crowd-sourced: About: https://electrek.co/2025/02/06/elon-musk-approved-tesla-full-self-driving-dataset-doubled-whats-the-state-of-fsd-now/ https://electrek.co/2025/02/06/elon-musk-approved-tesla-full... Actual data: https://teslafsdtracker.com/ https://teslafsdtracker.com/
- MattDaEskimo 10mo agoMay be misplaced considering Teslas have hit pedestrians. Additionally, many cars have pedestrian/object collision detection.
- toomuchtodo 10mo ago> because I know they will alert the driver and brake if necessary. This is not necessarily accurate. https://x.com/TaylorOgan/status/1681240264554209281 https://x.com/TaylorOgan/status/1681240264554209281 ("Warning: Graphic; Last month, a 76-year-old pedestrian was tragically mowed down by a Tesla Model S in Brooklyn, NY. Both of his legs were torn off, according to witnesses. New data from the NHTSA says the Tesla was engaged on Autopilot/Full Self-Driving mode.") https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-y-doesnt-stop-for-pedestrian-crossing-road-while-driving-forward-no-chimes-nothing-no-alert-ap-not-engaged-any-suggestions.306449/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-y-doesnt-stop-... https://www.tesladeaths.com/ https://www.tesladeaths.com/ I own several Teslas, would not trust them to stop for a pedestrian while in any driver assist mode. It may work, but if you rely on it, be prepared for consequences when it fails, as you are the responsible party when it fails.
- nsxwolf 10mo agoIs this really happening though?
- bryanlarsen 10mo agoIt looks like it's designed to inflict maximum harm, but it seems that it's actually less likely to kill you than an F-150 or Silverado or Ram. It has a lower hood height which is the aspect that has been hypothesized to be the reason that trucks kill pedestrians at a much greater rate than cars. I'm not trying to condone Cybertruck here. I hope the Cybertruck becomes a rallying cry to mandate pedestrian safety in the US, and that mandate becomes data driven and indicts F-150 et al.
- anonporridge 10mo agoCybertruck is a great case study in how people confuse form for function. In a world where technology is advancing exponentially, aesthetics increasingly offer a poor signal for performance, and only those who obsessively look under the hood and disregard form will see through it all.
- testing22321 10mo agoYep. There were endless articles and hundreds of comments here about how atrocious the crash safety of the cyber truck must be for occupants. Everyone knew for a fact it had no crumple zone, etc. Then the actual crash testing data comes out…… And crickets. Peoples intuition is very, very wrong.
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- bee_rider 10mo agoAre there enough Cybertrucks on the roads for us to detect their danger levels statistically? I’ve never seen one and I don’t live in the middle of nowhere or anything…
- VBprogrammer 10mo agoWe seen a good dozen or more in a couple of weeks in Orlando. To be clear, I agree with you on them being statistically insignificant.
- vcurious6 10mo agohave you got any stats to back that up?