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Most expensive laptops
- ur-whale 11mo agoLargest has 128G RAM and not clear if the GPU can access all of it. So, looks like none of them can run an .5T LLM locally. Pass.
- CafeRacer 11mo agoIsn't the GPU throttled anyways? Because it's going to be a mobile version?
- Coneylake 11mo agoBut if you're just interested in doing some machine learning on it, then it's all about how much RAM and not really how fast. I used to use my gaming laptop to do a lot of local ML
- garmjenif 11mo agomemory speed is still really important for inference tasks
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- yellow_lead 11mo agoIt seems like a scam that gaming laptops are marketed with the headline, i.e: GeForce RTX 5090, then in the fine print, read: GeForce RTX 5090 laptop GPU.
- esperent 11mo agoAgreed, but the scam is coming from Nvidia, not the laptop manufacturers. I doubt they're even complicit - Nvidia probably forces them to agree on exact marketing phrasing before selling them GPUs.
- FirmwareBurner 11mo agoNvidia is incredibly strict with the laptop and board partners on the design and marketing of the final product.
- RealStickman_ 11mo agoThe laptop manufacturers like marketing an RTX 5090 instead of the more accurate 5070. It's a simple reality that you can't cool 600W in a laptop case, but Nvidia selling laptop 5090 is complicit.
- lukeschlather 11mo agoWhat are the actual chips? Of course it's not going to run at 600W but I would think you can run a 5090 at 150W and the performance will be better than a 5070 at 150W. Of course, Nvidia may not be binning the chips the way I would expect...
- RealStickman_ 11mo agoIt's closer to an RTX 5080, I misremembered the number. Still, that's half the shader cores of a desktop 5090. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gb203.g1073 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gb203.g1073
- nullbyte808 11mo agoI thought "24 TB SSD" was a typo lmao
- yccs27 11mo agoAre there any laptops that actually have a desktop GPU built in?
- cma 11mo agoI don't think they do it anymore, but for a while nvidia laptop GPUs of the same model number had more cuda cores to match the desktop model of same number, with the laptop's lower clock.
- dragonwriter 11mo agoThe 3080 Ti laptop card has fewer CUDA cores but more VRAM than the desktop version.
- cma 11mo agoI think it was on the 2000 and maybe 1000 series.
- lmm 11mo agoYes (at least there used to be), but obviously that has a certain effect on their battery life and cooling requirements.
- dahcryn 11mo agoat that point, it's about portability, not battery life
- Nicook 11mo agoyou can pretty easily carry around a small form factor PC at that point. even a tower, where my LAN guys at.
- Our_Benefactors 11mo agoLaptop is still integrated with all the peripherals though (screen, trackpad, keyboard, speakers) Are Sager laptops still a thing? I used to lust after those many moons ago.
- Oxodao 11mo agoThe thinkpad is insane, 7k and NOT EVEN A GRAPHICS CARD
- mahin 11mo agoI think that listing is an anomaly; I see models with similar specs for cheaper (~$5000) on Lenovo's site. But they do come with Nvidia Ada GPUs.
- neilv 11mo agoThe Lenovo ThinkPad P16 Gen 2 can have up to an Nvidia RTX 5000 Ada Generation (16GB GDDR6).
- AstroBen 11mo agoIf you pay MSRP for a thinkpad you're doing it very, very wrong
- maleldil 11mo agoWhere do you get them instead? eBay?
- AstroBen 11mo agoLenovo sells refurbished Thinkpads on eBay, yeah. I bought one at the start of the year for about 30% of MSRP and I couldn't tell it wasn't brand new If you're intent on getting a new one they still offer regular deals on their store
- ktallett 11mo agoOutside of some of the fascinating VAIO laptops with their wild and wacky features, I have never loved a super expensive laptop. I like a laptop that can get the job done when I need to and easily be fixed if I need to when I am on the road. At the moment that is Framework, and previously thinkpad, and a while ago, Powerbooks. I have learned as I became older that the device is a tool to getting the work done, not something to drool over. I am more proud of the output than the device I do it on.
- esperent 11mo ago> I like a laptop that can get the job done Of course, but it depends on the job. If you're working on heavy 3D scenes, or doing video work in 4k or 8k, then "gets the job done" will be an expensive laptop. Maybe not $8k expensive, but $4k easily. For this kind of work it's often cheaper to buy a highly specced gaming laptop rather than a workstation laptop.
- BoredPositron 11mo agoBut there are mobile workstations for that if someone would turn up with a wacky 8k MSI gaming laptop he would certainly get some looks. Not because of the performance but because of no 24h replacement.
- ktallett 11mo agoI do find a gaming laptop usually has far worse battery life over a dedicated workstation laptop, plus it isn't something you can really carry with you day to day. A Zbook or a thinkpad is both not super heavy and does fit in.
- Dylan16807 11mo ago> Outside of some of the fascinating VAIO laptops with their wild and wacky features, I have never loved a super expensive laptop. Sure, if and only if you put in the word "super". Frameworks are expensive, starting around $1000 or $1500 depending on screen size. Perfectly good models are available for 1/3 the price.
- boredhacker3 11mo agoMSI is rubbish
- nullbyte808 11mo agoMakes a $3500 Macbook Pro look like a steal of a deal.
- hshdhdhehd 11mo agoDepends if you want a decent amount of SSD and RAM
- nullbyte808 11mo agothe $3500 Macbook has the same about of RAM as these even.
- yccs27 11mo ago#9 on the list is a Macbook Pro.
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- pointlessone 11mo agoIt pulls data from Amazon and so is limited to availability there. For instance, the most expensive MacBook in there is $5839 while on the Apple Store you can max out at $7349 (hardware only). I suspact same goes for other manufacturers. So if you want to blow ungodly amount of money you’d need to do some extra research.
- mahin 11mo agoTrue, you can spend more money than this and probably get better performance. I already had data from Amazon so I thought this would be a fun list.
- tarruda 11mo agoI'm wondering what would be the use case for a laptop with 24TB storage.
- colinstrickland 11mo agovideo editing, multiple projects
- lelanthran 11mo agoSure, but are you really doing all video editing on all projects on the go?
- bahmboo 11mo agoWhen it's your job job dealing with huge data it quickly becomes very time consuming and error prone to deal with multiple external storage devices. (edit: by error prone I mean human error eg where did I put this stuff?)
- esseph 11mo agoIf you're on location filming a nature show, yes. It's less to upload.
- TiredOfLife 11mo agoA couple 4k cameras filming at 60fps at, for example, tech conference and you can about fit a single days footage on those 24TB,
- kyriakos 11mo ago8k raw video is very large - even a single project will fill that up and need extra storage to add externally.
- bartvk 11mo agoPhotographers and camera operators. One of my students remarked that his dad saves his pictures in raw format, and that they've grown much bigger in recent years.
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- somerandomqaguy 11mo ago...these are kind of quaint, honestly. The FZ-40GZ-0SBM is almost $8000. You get an Intel Core Ultra 7 165H, 32GB of RAM, and 512 GB of SSD space. Intel integrated GPU only. The Getac X600 Server Laptop be decked out with a Xeon W-11865MRE, 128GB of RAM, and 6TB of storage space (no GPU again), but it'll run you a cool $17,000. IIRC they weigh 7 to 10 lbs, so not terribly light either.
- IlikeKitties 11mo agoWilling to bet these kind of notebooks get the worst update support possible.
- marcogarces 11mo agoMost people look at computers as a commodity that needs to perfectly balance performance and price; most really expensive computers usually are acquired by professionals that do need the specs and within small time, it gets paid off quickly. I have a 16" Macbook Pro M2 with 96GB of RAM. Costs without VAT around €4k, but a client paid half of it as a one year retainer for my work, so the device ended up costing me €2k. You would say those specs are over the top, but it's been 2 years and I still have an amazing work machine and there's not enough things I can do to make it feel slow; it pays off, because I don't waste my time waiting for my device, it's the other way around. Would my dad buy such a machine for browsing? Absolutely not! Me as a professional? Makes no sense not to!
- vladvasiliu 11mo agoThere's also the fact that usually, a higher-end machine will have better components that are more comfortable to use. Most brand-new "enterprise" computers we have at work have much worse screens, keyboards and touchpads than my 2013 mbp. I know many people don't seem to care, so that also has to be considered. Sure, they cost maybe half as much in nominal terms, but seeing how they fall apart even though I take good care of them, I would have needed to replace them so often that I'm not even sure I would have come out ahead. And, at the same time, I would have always had a terrible experience. Now, I haven't used that Mac in a few years, ever since I stopped going to the office and it stopped being supported. But even over a 7-year period, when I used it daily and carted it around daily, I'm pretty sure it's still an all-around better investment.
- dguest 11mo agoI didn't realize Amazon was offering payment plans for laptops. I'd only ever seen that for cars and houses. Which makes me wonder, what do they do when people default on payments? Do they have a kill switch they can throw? Or do they send the repo man to repossess it while you're sleeping?
- garmjenif 11mo agoMight be region specific, where I live you can't default or do bankruptcy, it just goes to the National Enforcement Authority that haunts you until you pay for the rest of your life. They don't care about any valuables without clear resell value like a newish car or jewelry or a house. You also lose your credit status, making you unable to get new loans or phone plans, and often making apartment finding really really difficult
- IAmBroom 11mo agoAmazon offers me payment plans on sub-$100 items.
- ghaff 11mo agoInstallment payment offers even for relatively inexpensive items are super-common.
- vel0city 11mo agoYou can get payment plans for fast food these days.
- rozab 11mo agoWhere do you live? Here in the UK, a company called Klarna has managed to wriggle their way into almost every single online storefront and offers plans for sub-£5 purchases.
- jillesvangurp 11mo agoExpensive is relative. I'm the CTO of a small startup and we're leasing our laptops from Apple. We don't have huge budgets. I got my 16" M4 Max, 48GB, 1TB model a few months ago. Costs us 105 euro/month. That includes 3 years of extended warranty. After the lease is over (3 years), we have the option to buy the laptops at a discount typically. The new value of this thing is around 4500 euro, I think. We could have gone cheap and gotten something for 70-80 or so Euro per month. It's not worth the savings. Over 3 years that adds up to about 900 euros saved. That's nothing in the grand scheme of things. 105 euro per month is a very reasonable cost from a business point of view and not at all expensive. People think nothing of spending the same on LLM tokens, or getting a lease car for their commutes (typically spending >2-3x per month). But when it comes to laptops, people suddenly become irrationally frugal. If you use your laptop to produce things and benefit from having a fast laptop in any way for that, don't be frugal like that. I get a lot of value out of having a fast laptop. For example, our entire integration test suite (Spring Boot) can run in under 30 seconds making use of all the CPU this thing has and running against docker containers with DB, Valkey, and Elasticsearch. That's a build that takes a lot longer on crappy CI vms or one of my old laptops. Basically, it runs almost like a small unit test suite. I can just invoke that whenever and not be blocked by it. I do this a lot. It helps me catch things early and keeps my feedback cycles short. Which helps me maintain flow state when I'm working. That is priceless. 30 seconds vs 3-4 minutes on my previous laptop (14" M1 16GB) is a big deal. It was more constrained for memory (swapping) and CPU and just ran a bit slower. Still reasonable. But a 7x improvement is massive for me. Times 10 or so per day adds up to really significant time savings. If you compile stuff, run expensive test suites, or whatever: you could use a fast laptop. I used to freelance / consult and charge more per hour than this thing costs me per month. In retrospect, for me the lesson on updating here is to never ever allow myself to penny pinch on laptop cost again.
- cactusplant7374 11mo agoCan the average person lease a laptop or just businesses?
- parkaboy 11mo agoI don't think they officially support leasing to individuals directly, but it's very easy to setup a leasing/biz account with them as a business. I think any Apple store has a POC there that can help / see: https://www.apple.com/shop/finance/business-financing https://www.apple.com/shop/finance/business-financing You can very easily setup an LLC and obtain an EIN. It's been a minute since I've setup an Apple financing account, so I don't recall what they require on the finance side. I'm certain they will want to see some sort of financial proof, but I doubt they will care much if you're not a proper operating biz. I'm not sure if proof of finances will need to be linked to a banking account under the business name, but if so, that's easy enough to setup with an ebank once you have an EIN. All of that being said, the tradeoff will be if you're willing to deal with the potential state/federal tax and biz reporting requirements of having the business. It's not hard esp if it's not a real active business, but just another thing to deal with.
- constantcrying 11mo agoThese HP Fury Laptops and many others on that list are such a joke. A somewhat capable CPU, sometimes just an integrated GPU slapped in a cheap chassis with mediocre build quality. Sold at absurd prices. My employer is "getting scammed" by HP continuously by paying for this absolute crap. The workstations aren't any better. Nowadays the "business laptops" you get cost the same as a MacBook, have a bad, barely usable, CPU and are made out of flimsy plastic. I do not get how companies like HP keep doing this, what a total embarrassment.
- BizarroLand 11mo agoHP Fury laptops have a metal shell, 16" or 18" screen and the cheapest one comes with an 8gb Blackwell P1000 for about $2600. https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-zbook-fury-g1i-16-inch-mobile-workstation-pc-wolf-pro-security-edition-p-c3fk2ua-aba-1?pStoreID=hpepp https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-zbook-fury-g1i-16-inch-... Also, you should never be paying the MSRP unless you're getting a kickback. Your employer may be stupid but that is not the default.
- commandersaki 11mo agoI could be completely wrong about this, but my hunch was the HP Zbook were mobile workstations and you could rip out the wireless components, so I thought this could be useful if you wanted something portable in say a SCIF.
- NoSalt 11mo agoTypically I need to pick from the other end of the spectrum, but this is pretty cool to look through.
- _ZeD_ 11mo agoand yet not one of them has a monitor of 17" or more...
- naoru 11mo agoTop five are 18". Are you sure?
- asimovDev 11mo agohow much of those prices is due to having 8tb nvme drives?
- _fat_santa 11mo agoLast year I purchased a Lenovo P15 Gen 1 used, originally it came with a sticker price of $5700 but I managed to get it used for ~$500. All these hyper expensive laptops fall into one of two buckets, either they are top end gaming rigs or they are like my Lenovo and designed for large engineering companies that will just lease them and not give a crap how much they cost. For the average consumer though I highly recommend going on Ebay and finding these hyper expensive laptops used from a few years ago. Mine came with an i9 processor, an RTX 5000 and can support up to 128GB of RAM and even 5 years on those are still wild numbers except that same computer can be found for maybe 10-15% of the original price. Though I will say one downside of buying one of these is they are customizable to an insane degree so finding the "right" one might take you a while (took me around a month to find mine).
- mmarian 11mo agoAnother downside is that the seller might install spyware on your machine - had that with a Lenovo too. Ended up buying a brand new Asus that was so heavily discounted it cost the same as the 2nd hand Lenovo I returned.
- thehamkercat 11mo agowhy not just re-install the OS? or did you mean spyware at hardware/firmware/BIOS level?
- _fat_santa 11mo ago> Another downside is that the seller might install spyware on your machine At least in my case it came without a hard drive so there was no vector for attack there. Sure they might have installed spyware at the BIOS level though the practical chance of that happening from a seller that does any sort of volume is more unlikely than winning the lottery IMHO. Sellers (especially volume sellers) just want to ship you your stuff and make a buck off the margin.
- mehdibl 11mo agoThe funny part the 5090 mobile is more like a 5080 desktop edition! See the Alienware laptop flagged as 5090 while it's "GeForce RTX 5090 24 GB GDDR7" as laptops can't sustain the TDP and RTX XX90 full power. For AI an external GPU is less costly option.
- ETlol 11mo agoThat ThinkyPad that is selling for over 7000$ and it doesn't even have a GPU makes it really hard for anyone to see that price as justified. Do some of these sellers just have a goal to sell one or two of these for the entirety of the products life cycle and that would be a win in their book? Or is this just then trying to pad the market pri ces to make the less expensive products look more appeealing?
- ycombinatrix 11mo ago$9k for 64 gigs of RAM...fyi a single 64gb DDR5 SO-DIMM stick is only $200