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Tron: Ares Set to Lose $132M+
- asadm 11mo agoI watched the movie in 4dx and absolutely loved it! If you are on the fence, DO NOT MISS WATCHING IT IN 3D! (they will never release it in 3d on digital). The visuals and soundtrack are amazing.
- attendant3446 11mo agoI have watched it in 3D, it's still a bad movie. Only the soundtrack was good.
- Gormo 11mo agoIs it set to actually lose $132M, or just "lose" it in the tradition of Hollywood accounting?
- Onavo 11mo agoIsn't the rule of thumb for Hollywood that you have to make at least 3x the cost of production in box office sales to break even?
- rbinv 11mo agoHow does that work?
- HWR_14 11mo agoProduction doesn't include advertising or distribution. Advertising can often equal production costs. And box office revenue gets distributed to several groups, not just going to the people who own the movie.
- codyb 11mo agoPresumably there's a fair amount of additional costs involved in marketing and distribution that aren't accounted for in the production figures and this ends up being a good baseline for a fuller accounting based on industry trends.
- HDThoreaun 11mo agocost doesnt include advertising which tron had a lot of and studio has to split box office with theaters.
- Gormo 11mo agoA Hollywood production often involves a huge number of distinct business entities in a complicated network of relationships with each other. Oftentimes, a specific business entity is set up to coordinate a single production, and that is the entity that reports the profit/loss for the entire project -- the project's revenues can be spread across lots of other entities, while its expenses are concentrated in that central entity, producing a nominal loss in their accounting records even if the movie as a whole was extremely profitable.
- TMWNN 11mo ago/r/boxoffice says typically 2.5X.
- Gormo 11mo agoThat applies to what you actually make, even if you are "losing" much more on paper.
- ceejayoz 11mo agoI don't understand how Jared Leto keeps getting starring roles.
- joezydeco 11mo agoI think he's done after this one.
- michaelbuckbee 11mo agoHe's already been cast as (and I can't believe I'm about to type this) Skeletor in the Masters of the Universe reboot.
- overvale 11mo agoI really liked him in WeCrashed. He was the perfect kind of strange for that part.
- sidewndr46 11mo agoMy assumption is he has the best agent in the world
- madduci 11mo agoWasn't himself the director or producer?
- fckgw 11mo agoCorrect. This was initially being developed shortly after "Legacy but the failure of "Tomorrowland" canned the whole thing. Leto came on years later, offered to produce it and star in the film and brought the project back from the dead. This is basically his film, it doesn't exist without Leto as the lead
- georgeburdell 11mo agoHe’s this generation’s Nicholas Cage
- taylodl 11mo agoJames Kahn's novelization is orders of magnitude better (original Tron). His novelization of Poltergeist is also excellent.
- mondainx 11mo agoI hate to see this, I like Leto, but he clearly can't carry a movie.
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- jncfhnb 11mo agoI think he’s a creep and the only flaw of the Bladerunner sequel
- wnevets 11mo agothat and Ford walking around in a t-shirt he got from walmart.
- babyshake 11mo agoI think Ford could have been removed from the movie along with about 20-30 minutes. It felt like fan service.
- Schiendelman 11mo agoIsn't the point of that role him being super creepy? I feel like he was well cast :)
- jm4 11mo agoIt's well documented that he's creep in real life. Nine women, including minors, have accused him of inappropriate behavior. His co-stars have had problems with him too. He apparently took the Joker character a little too seriously.
- jncfhnb 11mo agoI’d rather not glorify sexual predators personally
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- lazzurs 11mo agoI am clearly the only person that enjoyed this movie.
- CoastalCoder 11mo agoI didn't hate the movie. It just didn't really excite me. Maybe I'm just old enough that all of the plot points and action sequences were familiar from other films.
- johng 11mo agoI love Tron, and NIN. I can't even figure out what the movie is about from the trailers. All the other Tron's I head a good idea of what the movie was about. This one, zero clue... and I have no interest to go to a theater to find out. Will watch once it comes out for home.
- omnicognate 11mo agoI'm expecting a glorified music video. If the music is good and the visuals are cool I'll be happy.
- ksymph 11mo agoThe criticisms around Ares sounds a lot like the criticisms of Legacy when it came out so I'm actually pretty excited. Tron: Legacy is one of my all-time favorite movies and it's basically a two hour Daft Punk music video.
- CoastalCoder 11mo agoI think you'll be happy.
- prettyblocks 11mo agoI liked it too. It was full of tropes in a cute way that I enjoy from contemporary sci-fi, and it was pretty sick to go see in Dolby with the haptic seats.
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- atum47 11mo agoI was visiting my old university town when I noticed they have a movie theater now. I went in cause I wanted to support it and the only session at the time was tron. I left as soon as my pop corn bucket was empty. What a mess!
- mylons 11mo agothey’ll easily make this up at the parks at the new tron ares ride
- angmarsbane 11mo agoWe saw it but only because our theater has discount movie tickets on Tuesdays, it's our cheap weekly date within walking distance. We were satisfied watching it for $8/per ticket. At that cost per ticket we don't mind taking a chance on a movie with mixed or poor reviews, and we don't mind seeing a movie outside of our core genres.
- Geonode 11mo agoTron is interesting because we want to go into the digital world. We don't want it to come to us, the whole plot of this is contrary to the fun of the original idea.
- miamibre 11mo agoThank you so much for saying this! The moment I saw the trailer and read the premise I immediately lost faith in the product. I am not the biggest Tron fan but I have such a soft part in my heart for the movies because the original film has such a unique take on how computers work because back then they weren't mainstream that you end up with this weird mishmash of science and fantasy that you don't see anymore. Meanwhile, the sequel had this amazing production design and the remix version of the album has a permanent spot in my workout playlist thanks to all the techno artists they brought aboard. Shame that the execs in Disney seem to be so clueless and just keep burning hundreds of millions to make these over-budget star studded films that no one is going to watch, at least in the case of marvel it makes sense but who in the world was clamoring for Tron? You need to take creative risks and shying away from the digital world isn't it.
- cam_l 11mo ago..art imitates life.
- squigz 11mo agoWell that's because they didn't have Daft Punk making a banger soundtrack
- r_lee 11mo agoSounds like a tremendous success to me?
- jerf 11mo agoTron is a fantastically difficult franchise to write for. It is, in my opinion, the most alien franchise in Hollywood. It's unusual for alien worlds in Hollywood to have different physics, but the grid does. Its residents are not human, and while some basic connections to humans are necessary for the audience to care at all, the programs on the grid are not humans. Very different motivations, very different needs. And now that Hollywood executives have all but open contempt for writing, I had no hopes of them writing a decent Tron film. And they didn't. Even Legacy really kind of squeaked out decent quality (if not spectacularly perfect in every way) in an era where the writing was already degrading; I recall not expecting much from that film even then and being pleasantly surprised. Now it's just hopeless to expect them to be able to write something as foreign as the deeply alien grid residents in Tron when Hollywood writers hardly seem to be able to write about anything that isn't just their own personal interpretation of some family trauma they directly experienced, or their previous night's dinner politics conversation translated to screen with some one genre or another's conventions smeared over it like a bad makeup job.
- dustingetz 11mo agowhat went wrong historically that the writing got so bad these days?
- PaulHoule 11mo agoI think there's a bit of a monoculture in L.A. and the same kind of people keep writing the same kind of movies in big committees. I think a lot of westerners are getting into anime and manga and part of it is that a manga is typically drawn and written by one person who is responsible for the whole story, contrast that to the "Marvel System" where four people worked on each book -- Stan Lee had a writing credit and it's true that he had a special talent for picking the exact words but the art team had a big influence on deciding how the story would go.
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- bronlund 11mo agoImagine that.
- cadamsdotcom 11mo agoToday's news: Disney to stop charging money for Tron Ares forever. Thus creating a completely permanent immutable $132m loss which will definitely never change for ever and ever. It's a hit piece people