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Video: Linux sucks 2024 (Bryan Lunduke) [video]

31 points by fkarg 2y ago

jadbox 2y ago
Mods, why was this removed? Was this user-voted flagged or mod flagged?
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nar001 2y ago
Do we really need to still be pushing people like Bryan Lunduke?
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- anotherhue 2y ago
  Knowing when to quit seems to be a lost art.
  - arp242 2y ago
    Everyone can find their niche audience on Patreon and whatnot now, which means there's fewer incentives to guide people if they go off the rails. On the other hand, it also empowers people operating in smaller niches that have difficulty surviving otherwise, which is kind of neat.
- RIMR 2y ago
  Absolutely not. It's a shame, because Lunduke has been a voice of reason in the Linux community for some time, but those days are well over. You don't just walk away from Qanon with your reputation intact. Bryan's slipping into conspiracy theories, grifting, and even tacit support for fascism is enough for me to stop caring about what he says. These "Linux Sucks" videos do tend to be pretty good and he's rarely off-the-rails on the subject of technology, so I'm sure he makes some good points in this one, but I just can't look at his face or listen to him for 74 minutes. Once you realize that someone is rooting for the downfall of democracy and the oppression of marginalized people, you tend to want to make sure that as few people as possible listen to anything that person has to say.
  - jadbox 2y ago
    > "tacit support for fascism" Can you give an example that he's expressed?
dventimi 2y ago
An hour and 14 minutes??? Please, for the love of God, get to the point, man.
- pferde 2y ago
  Yeah, I gave up after a few minutes. If you insist on wasting my time by packing almost each sentence in bombastic sounding oratory (and failing!), give me a transcript to read instead, or I'm out of here.
Cloudef 2y ago
Me working with windows apis, particularily WinSock Yeah, it could be worse. Wish MS did not drop ball on IORing why can it only do disk I/O?
Upright8905 2y ago
So basically he says that once Linus Torvalds dies, Linux Foundation controls everything because they control the kernel updates? I don't think this is how Linux works
reify 2y ago
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2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
I'm out of the loop on Lunduke but all the haters here have me intrigued.
- HyulianGrader 2y ago
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  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
    Sometimes it really is fascism, but other times it's a mild political disagreement.
- 0xcde4c3db 2y ago
  One thing to look out for is that he maintains different outlets for "political" and "non-political" content, and he and his fans have a history of pointing to the latter to suggest that he's just a regular opinionated/straight-talkin' tech guru who's being slandered by unhinged haters. The reason that he does this is that his politics are trash (see his political blog, https://conservativenerds.substack.com https://conservativenerds.substack.com, about half of which appears to be collections of low-effort memes revolving around transphobia and COVID conspiracy nonsense). He used to mix tech and politics freely on his Twitter account until he apparently realized that was damaging his brand and made it private.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
    I knew it. He's conservative and we can't handle mild political disagreement like grown-ups.
    - shrimp_emoji 2y ago
      He's a lefty-turned-righty after the Portland riots broke his brain. An alternative interpretation is that he's a lefty with a brain. ;D I don't know why the other person automatically banned that as "trash politics". To me, "trash politics" are the self-destructive DEI puritanism that he rants about which is presently destroying Red Hat. Of all the right-wing grifter types, he seems like a unicorn of sincerity and niceness. He's not transphobic; he just hates pronoun drama ruining good things. In other words, the correct and based take which should prevail. Either way, he's also virtually the only person reporting on lefty insanity in tech. Re: handling mild political disagreements https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P6IW6bJX0j0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P6IW6bJX0j0
phkahler 2y ago
If Ubuntu is going full Snap, can they start maintaining the snap package for Solvespace instead of leaving it to upstream?
gabrielgio 2y ago
I love that "let's keep things apolitical" then just talk about politics that he might disagree with. There is not such a thing as apolitical. If you say something of sort you are just in agreement with the current political status quo you are inserted on. Just by his definition of "I only talk when things really get political" is statement to that. Open source software is political statement, and imho it benefits from being more political (or open about it) not "less". Also this whole videos plays like a series of click baity phrases, I couldn't watch through.
ziml77 2y ago
I don't know this person, but from the title and length I was expecting something interesting. There was nothing of interest here. I should have abandoned the video right away when he said he doesn't get political and then jumped into crap about "anti-white oaths".
kemotep 2y ago
Bryan Lunduke is really interesting. A Microsoft alumni from the 90’s and early 2000’s moving on to become a champion for open source and Linux. He had a decent following with interesting insights and then just blew that all away. It’s not often someone can stick to their “convictions” but he has the wealth he never needed to build a following to have a career. He could have retired young, tinkered with computers and raised his family. His “heel turn” as is was was shocking at first but to double down on being anti-vax, sympathetic to January 6th protesters, and complaining about the existence of LGBT people (who have been around in Computer Science from the beginning) is just disappointing. I loved his take on how GNU/Hurd should work. The idea of releasing a piece of software and only doing security updates after getting it to boot on common hardware is an interesting idea. Nothing he’s had to say in the past 4 years has been insightful or interesting. There are more than enough voices in the Linux community that can champion the cause these days without supporting the kind of tired, identity politics and culture war driven nonsense that he focuses on now.
- caeril 2y ago
  > sympathetic to January 6th protesters Ooof, this is a really bad look. I had no idea he sympathized with a group of unarmed boomer LARPers. His technical positions should be immediately disregarded because he has the wrong opinions about due process applying to people who put their feet on someone's desk. What a Nazi.
  - mmh0000 2y ago
    I'm not sure why I'm replying to this, it'll just fall of deaf ears... But Someone on the Internet is wrong[1]! It took my literally two seconds to Google up some photos[2], they don't look very "unarmed"[3] to me. [1] https://xkcd.com/386/ https://xkcd.com/386/ [2] https://apnews.com/article/photos-election-jan6-trump-washington-f69b5f03316eaef2044d520bc7ffe49a https://apnews.com/article/photos-election-jan6-trump-washin... [3] https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/01/05/gettyimages-1230454153-edit_custom-da4b5159080b2775796a30e7127e4671be9866fa.jpg?s=1300&c=85&f=webp https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/01/05/gettyimages-1230...
antisthenes 2y ago
This isn't actually a technical video, it's just some dude's identity politics masquerading as tech insights. Hard pass.
sylens 2y ago
I had completely missed what Bryan had been up to in the last 5-6 years. All I remembered was that he did a bunch of these "Why Linux Sucks" videos back in the middle of the 2010s that I always thought were humorous, so I clicked through to watch this. Holy crap, what happened? This video is all about complaining about DEI and then throwing shade at the Linux Foundation for "vaccine passports"

31 points by fkarg 2y ago

jadbox 2y ago

Mods, why was this removed? Was this user-voted flagged or mod flagged?

deleted 2y ago

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nar001 2y ago

Do we really need to still be pushing people like Bryan Lunduke?

deleted 2y ago
[deleted]
deleted 2y ago
[deleted]
anotherhue 2y ago
Knowing when to quit seems to be a lost art.
- arp242 2y ago
  Everyone can find their niche audience on Patreon and whatnot now, which means there's fewer incentives to guide people if they go off the rails. On the other hand, it also empowers people operating in smaller niches that have difficulty surviving otherwise, which is kind of neat.
RIMR 2y ago
Absolutely not. It's a shame, because Lunduke has been a voice of reason in the Linux community for some time, but those days are well over. You don't just walk away from Qanon with your reputation intact. Bryan's slipping into conspiracy theories, grifting, and even tacit support for fascism is enough for me to stop caring about what he says. These "Linux Sucks" videos do tend to be pretty good and he's rarely off-the-rails on the subject of technology, so I'm sure he makes some good points in this one, but I just can't look at his face or listen to him for 74 minutes. Once you realize that someone is rooting for the downfall of democracy and the oppression of marginalized people, you tend to want to make sure that as few people as possible listen to anything that person has to say.
- jadbox 2y ago
  > "tacit support for fascism" Can you give an example that he's expressed?

dventimi 2y ago

An hour and 14 minutes??? Please, for the love of God, get to the point, man.

pferde 2y ago
Yeah, I gave up after a few minutes. If you insist on wasting my time by packing almost each sentence in bombastic sounding oratory (and failing!), give me a transcript to read instead, or I'm out of here.

Cloudef 2y ago

Me working with windows apis, particularily WinSock Yeah, it could be worse. Wish MS did not drop ball on IORing why can it only do disk I/O?

Upright8905 2y ago

So basically he says that once Linus Torvalds dies, Linux Foundation controls everything because they control the kernel updates? I don't think this is how Linux works

reify 2y ago

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2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago

I'm out of the loop on Lunduke but all the haters here have me intrigued.

HyulianGrader 2y ago
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- 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
  Sometimes it really is fascism, but other times it's a mild political disagreement.
0xcde4c3db 2y ago
One thing to look out for is that he maintains different outlets for "political" and "non-political" content, and he and his fans have a history of pointing to the latter to suggest that he's just a regular opinionated/straight-talkin' tech guru who's being slandered by unhinged haters. The reason that he does this is that his politics are trash (see his political blog, https://conservativenerds.substack.com https://conservativenerds.substack.com, about half of which appears to be collections of low-effort memes revolving around transphobia and COVID conspiracy nonsense). He used to mix tech and politics freely on his Twitter account until he apparently realized that was damaging his brand and made it private.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
  I knew it. He's conservative and we can't handle mild political disagreement like grown-ups.
  - shrimp_emoji 2y ago
    He's a lefty-turned-righty after the Portland riots broke his brain. An alternative interpretation is that he's a lefty with a brain. ;D I don't know why the other person automatically banned that as "trash politics". To me, "trash politics" are the self-destructive DEI puritanism that he rants about which is presently destroying Red Hat. Of all the right-wing grifter types, he seems like a unicorn of sincerity and niceness. He's not transphobic; he just hates pronoun drama ruining good things. In other words, the correct and based take which should prevail. Either way, he's also virtually the only person reporting on lefty insanity in tech. Re: handling mild political disagreements https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P6IW6bJX0j0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P6IW6bJX0j0

phkahler 2y ago

If Ubuntu is going full Snap, can they start maintaining the snap package for Solvespace instead of leaving it to upstream?

gabrielgio 2y ago

I love that "let's keep things apolitical" then just talk about politics that he might disagree with. There is not such a thing as apolitical. If you say something of sort you are just in agreement with the current political status quo you are inserted on. Just by his definition of "I only talk when things really get political" is statement to that. Open source software is political statement, and imho it benefits from being more political (or open about it) not "less". Also this whole videos plays like a series of click baity phrases, I couldn't watch through.

ziml77 2y ago

I don't know this person, but from the title and length I was expecting something interesting. There was nothing of interest here. I should have abandoned the video right away when he said he doesn't get political and then jumped into crap about "anti-white oaths".

kemotep 2y ago

Bryan Lunduke is really interesting. A Microsoft alumni from the 90’s and early 2000’s moving on to become a champion for open source and Linux. He had a decent following with interesting insights and then just blew that all away. It’s not often someone can stick to their “convictions” but he has the wealth he never needed to build a following to have a career. He could have retired young, tinkered with computers and raised his family. His “heel turn” as is was was shocking at first but to double down on being anti-vax, sympathetic to January 6th protesters, and complaining about the existence of LGBT people (who have been around in Computer Science from the beginning) is just disappointing. I loved his take on how GNU/Hurd should work. The idea of releasing a piece of software and only doing security updates after getting it to boot on common hardware is an interesting idea. Nothing he’s had to say in the past 4 years has been insightful or interesting. There are more than enough voices in the Linux community that can champion the cause these days without supporting the kind of tired, identity politics and culture war driven nonsense that he focuses on now.

caeril 2y ago
> sympathetic to January 6th protesters Ooof, this is a really bad look. I had no idea he sympathized with a group of unarmed boomer LARPers. His technical positions should be immediately disregarded because he has the wrong opinions about due process applying to people who put their feet on someone's desk. What a Nazi.
- mmh0000 2y ago
  I'm not sure why I'm replying to this, it'll just fall of deaf ears... But Someone on the Internet is wrong[1]! It took my literally two seconds to Google up some photos[2], they don't look very "unarmed"[3] to me. [1] https://xkcd.com/386/ https://xkcd.com/386/ [2] https://apnews.com/article/photos-election-jan6-trump-washington-f69b5f03316eaef2044d520bc7ffe49a https://apnews.com/article/photos-election-jan6-trump-washin... [3] https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/01/05/gettyimages-1230454153-edit_custom-da4b5159080b2775796a30e7127e4671be9866fa.jpg?s=1300&c=85&f=webp https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/01/05/gettyimages-1230...

antisthenes 2y ago

This isn't actually a technical video, it's just some dude's identity politics masquerading as tech insights. Hard pass.

sylens 2y ago

I had completely missed what Bryan had been up to in the last 5-6 years. All I remembered was that he did a bunch of these "Why Linux Sucks" videos back in the middle of the 2010s that I always thought were humorous, so I clicked through to watch this. Holy crap, what happened? This video is all about complaining about DEI and then throwing shade at the Linux Foundation for "vaccine passports"