6 ms·

Unreal: > Allred tweeted that the school achieved a 100 percent job-placement rate in one of its cohorts, and later acknowledged in a private message that the

Unreal: > Allred tweeted that the school achieved a 100 percent job-placement rate in one of its cohorts, and later acknowledged in a private message that the sample size was just one student.

syntaxing 2y ago
Aha that’s a gem, it’s like that crypto company listed “audited by <some famous reliable auditor >”. They do not mention they failed the audit, but they “did” get audited.
- FireBeyond 2y ago
  Or Tether. "We realize - but hope you don't - that 'financial attestations' do not remotely resemble 'audits', but we're going to call this financial attestation an audit". And "If you don't fall for the first, we're going to tell you that we have had audits done but we won't release them because they're in Mandarin Chinese." I wish I was kidding.
g42gregory 2y ago
Technically, the statement is still valid. It's just that the confidence interval will be wide. :-)
- threeseed 2y ago
  He seems to be the king of technically. "For a few months in 2013, Allred camped out of his car while in Silicon Valley, and frequently describes this period as having been homeless. However, a deleted post on his blog titled 'Voluntarily Homeless in Silicon Valley' explains that he lived out of a car by choice."
  - ultrarunner 2y ago
    I have a friend who is adamant that he lives out of his truck by choice, but it's hard to call it a choice when there's only one option. I wouldn't hold his feet to the fire if he later admitted he was in a rough spot (our friend group is all very clear on this situation). I had put Allred entirely out of my mind for a while, but I seem to recall his "homelessness" was characterized more by image than by practicality. Since we're being technical, it seems worth making the distinction.
    - FireBeyond 2y ago
      I had this same debate here a few months ago, about people living out of their truck/van in Seattle, and the "choice" of it. There was more than one person that could (or would) not see the distinction. "I've seen plenty of social media and YT videos talking about how much they enjoy the experience". Uhh, when people talk of living out of a vehicle in the context of homelessness, they're talking about people parked in the back corner of a Walmart lot with their laundry and many earthly possessions beside them, not social media creators making YouTube videos for "#vanlife".
sandofsky 2y ago
When confronted about this on Hacker News, Austen defended himself with: > I did say the hiring rate of a cohort of one student was 100%. And in the same tweet I said, in all caps BUT VERY SMALL SAMPLE SIZE. Odd how that doesn’t make the article, don’t you think? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26813371 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26813371 Incidentally, it did make it into the article he's referring to, twice.
- shkkmo 2y ago
  Incidentally, comments like the one you made back in 2021 are part of what make HN so great, thanks.
- kevinmchugh 2y ago
  I've been in a lot of from arguments but never had one where I was later proven right by the federal government. That's quite the feather in your cap.
- sensanaty 2y ago
  I could almost respect the hilarity of this defense if it weren't about him having scammed people for (in aggregates) millions
- bikemore 2y ago
  [flagged]
- bikemore 2y ago
  [flagged]
- bikemore 2y ago
  [flagged]
- bikemore 2y ago
  [flagged]
tempsy 2y ago
From what I’ve read about his career before this he was basically a growth marketer/hacker Like the only thing he knows how to do is fudge things with dark patterns to achieve growth at any cost
deleted 2y ago
[deleted]
bikemore 2y ago
[flagged]

Unreal: > Allred tweeted that the school achieved a 100 percent job-placement rate in one of its cohorts, and later acknowledged in a private message that the sample size was just one student.

syntaxing 2y ago

Aha that’s a gem, it’s like that crypto company listed “audited by <some famous reliable auditor >”. They do not mention they failed the audit, but they “did” get audited.

FireBeyond 2y ago
Or Tether. "We realize - but hope you don't - that 'financial attestations' do not remotely resemble 'audits', but we're going to call this financial attestation an audit". And "If you don't fall for the first, we're going to tell you that we have had audits done but we won't release them because they're in Mandarin Chinese." I wish I was kidding.

g42gregory 2y ago

Technically, the statement is still valid. It's just that the confidence interval will be wide. :-)

threeseed 2y ago
He seems to be the king of technically. "For a few months in 2013, Allred camped out of his car while in Silicon Valley, and frequently describes this period as having been homeless. However, a deleted post on his blog titled 'Voluntarily Homeless in Silicon Valley' explains that he lived out of a car by choice."
- ultrarunner 2y ago
  I have a friend who is adamant that he lives out of his truck by choice, but it's hard to call it a choice when there's only one option. I wouldn't hold his feet to the fire if he later admitted he was in a rough spot (our friend group is all very clear on this situation). I had put Allred entirely out of my mind for a while, but I seem to recall his "homelessness" was characterized more by image than by practicality. Since we're being technical, it seems worth making the distinction.
  - FireBeyond 2y ago
    I had this same debate here a few months ago, about people living out of their truck/van in Seattle, and the "choice" of it. There was more than one person that could (or would) not see the distinction. "I've seen plenty of social media and YT videos talking about how much they enjoy the experience". Uhh, when people talk of living out of a vehicle in the context of homelessness, they're talking about people parked in the back corner of a Walmart lot with their laundry and many earthly possessions beside them, not social media creators making YouTube videos for "#vanlife".

sandofsky 2y ago

When confronted about this on Hacker News, Austen defended himself with: > I did say the hiring rate of a cohort of one student was 100%. And in the same tweet I said, in all caps BUT VERY SMALL SAMPLE SIZE. Odd how that doesn’t make the article, don’t you think? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26813371 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26813371 Incidentally, it did make it into the article he's referring to, twice.

shkkmo 2y ago
Incidentally, comments like the one you made back in 2021 are part of what make HN so great, thanks.
kevinmchugh 2y ago
I've been in a lot of from arguments but never had one where I was later proven right by the federal government. That's quite the feather in your cap.
sensanaty 2y ago
I could almost respect the hilarity of this defense if it weren't about him having scammed people for (in aggregates) millions
bikemore 2y ago
[flagged]
bikemore 2y ago
[flagged]
bikemore 2y ago
[flagged]
bikemore 2y ago
[flagged]

tempsy 2y ago

From what I’ve read about his career before this he was basically a growth marketer/hacker Like the only thing he knows how to do is fudge things with dark patterns to achieve growth at any cost

deleted 2y ago

[deleted]

bikemore 2y ago

[flagged]