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Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked
- xyst 2y ago[flagged]
- SkyPuncher 2y agoOur 2020 Hyundai is the best vehicle we’ve owned - hands down. Most vehicles have recalls. My 2021 Ford literally needs its entire axle replaced because the hub bolt sheers off.
- vb6sp6 2y ago[dead]
- nobodyandproud 2y agoWhat informs this opinion?
- xeromal 2y agoThe biggest thing would probably be the fact that a large amount of them could be stolen with a usb-shaped dongle because the cars didn't come with immobilizers.
- nobodyandproud 2y agoOkay. They underestimated the ease of theft, but that doesn’t make the car bottom tier by any means.
- nradov 2y agoYou must not know many people. Korean car manufacturers have high sales numbers. https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2023-us-vehicle-sales-figures-by-model/ https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2023-us-vehicle-sales-figures-...
- loloquwowndueo 2y agoMaybe it’s a case of “nobody goes to that restaurant anymore because it’s always crowded” :)
- tomalpha 2y agoIn the UK, they tend to rate highly in terms of reliability. They can’t be that differently made to the US? For example [1], [2] [1] https://www.warrantydirect.co.uk/blog/most-reliable-used-cars-in-the-uk.html https://www.warrantydirect.co.uk/blog/most-reliable-used-car... [2] https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/guides/most-reliable-car-brands/ https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/guides/most-reliable-car-brands...
- SkyPuncher 2y agoOur Hyundai is extremely reliable. I can only remember a single issue with it. The adaptive cruise seemed to get overwhelmed in Chicago and disabled itself. By contrast, I have some electrical gremlin with my 2021 Ford nearly every day. Back up sensor fails to work, main screen doesn’t turn on, digital odometer doesn’t turn on, power train throws errors, mirrors don’t unfold, etc, etc. it all tends to resolve itself quickly and isn’t more than an annoyance, but it sure kills my confidence in that vehicle.
- heywire 2y agoAs the owner of a 2017 Tucson that drinks a qt of oil every 600 miles or so, I agree. So many stories in the Hyundai / Kia Engine Failures FB group. That’s not even mentioning the downright dangerous DCT (transmission)
- cptskippy 2y agoThat's been every Honda I ever owned (88,96,01,07). I was paying minimum $2000 a year in parts for my 07 Accord when I got rid of it. It was plagued with little gremlins. My neighbor was a mechanic and he said Honda had transition to a modular design and you could no longer replace a piece of the suspension or electrical system that was bad, you had to purchase an assembly. Which is why even minor repairs like a bad relay were $2000 repairs.
- theyinwhy 2y agoIsn't the recall a good reason for buying one of their cars?
- duped 2y agoBecause they offer better quality at lower prices for the things car buyers care about than Japanese and American manufacturers. Long term maintenance and 50k mile warranty isn't that big of a deal for people leasing cars for 3 years. Say you want to buy a hybrid or PEV with modern creature comforts (heated steering wheel, heated/ventilated seats, car play, wireless charging, etc). If you want a Japanese car with those features you're paying for middle trim Acura or Lexus. There are not many Toyotas or Hondas that fit the bill, and the ones that do cost 5-10k more than Kia and Hyundai. And with interest rates where they are right now, if you're leasing or financing a car that's under 5 years old you get a lot more for your money with a new Hyundai or Kia than you do Toyota or Honda.
- bogdanstanciu 2y agoI would buy a Kia or Hyundai because I get the same level of reliability as an American car, but with more creature comforts and at a lower price point.
- jiqiren 2y agoI was taught in drivers education (California) to always set my parking brake because popping out of gear while parked was a common issue. I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for everything.
- null0ranje 2y ago> I was taught in drivers education (California) to always set my parking brake because popping out of gear while parked was a common issue. I was taught this as well, along with curbing my wheels. I have a young family member who was taught exactly the opposite -- setting the parking brake was "harmful" to the car somehow and not to do it. > I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for everything. I hope auto manufactures get away from the "we'll fix it in software" mentality.
- inhumantsar 2y agothe emergency brake (what a lot of manual drivers call a parking brake) is not usually designed for constant use. esp in older models where the brake was cable-based. if I lived on the west coast again or somewhere else with a lot of hills, I'd use it all the time along with curbing and leaving it in gear. I grew up on the flat prairie, parking on hills freaks me out
- javagram 2y ago> I have a young family member who was taught exactly the opposite -- setting the parking brake was "harmful" to the car somehow and not to do it. I knew a friend who was also convinced of this somehow. It seems to be a common myth that it’s an “emergency” brake despite the car manual and drivers ed calling it a parking brake and stating it should be used each time, even on an automatic.
- tomku 2y ago> setting the parking brake was "harmful" to the car somehow and not to do it And this is exactly how people end up with a parking brake that's rusted in place and useless, which they'll discover at the worst possible time. Surreal to hear that's being taught to new drivers as a good practice.
- Tostino 2y agoMy 2020 Palisade rolled down a hill after I had parked it with my wife and dog still inside. It rolled over my leg and foot, and I had to go to the hospital. My wife had jumped from the passenger seat to the driver's to stomp on the brakes as it slammed into the car behind us. Transmission grinding away as it rolled down the hill. Could not recommend the experience less.
- thebruce87m 2y agoA Palisade is a Hyundai for anyone else who didn’t know. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Palisade https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Palisade
- jeffbee 2y agoHyundai owns a third of Kia and the two share parts, assemblies, and entire platforms.
- SkyPuncher 2y agothe PALISADE AND telluride are essentially the same vehicle as well.
- scotty79 2y agoSounds terrible. Doesn't it have a hand break or did it roll despite the handbreak?
- vvillena 2y agoWhy do people rely on automatic gearboxes to keep cars in place? Trusting the "park" position is like leaving a manual gearbox car in gear: it can do the job, but it's not the right tool for the purpose. The handbrake is there for a reason.
- doubled112 2y agoI use both in a manual. Cheap insurance. Handbrake, and in gear in case the handbrake fails. But I’ve never seen the driver of an automatic set the parking brake. Never. That gear is “park” so they use it when they park. Only driving manuals, I have to really remind myself not to in somebody else’s car because it is probably going to stick as a result of never being used.
- nytesky 2y agoI don’t drive manuals now because my wife hasn’t been able to leadn how, but I am adamantly teaching my daughter to always set the parking brake when parked. What frustrates me is this finicky push button electronic parking brakes, I want a good mechanical handbrake or even a 3rd pedal parking brake.
- voidmain0001 2y agoAeons ago I paid $50 to a manual shifting driving instructor to teach my wife to drive manual. It saved our relationship and she drove stick better than me as a result. The instructor’s trick was to show how a clutch works then he had his students get the vehicle moving from a stopped position by only feathering the clutch pedal. He wouldn’t let them use the accelerator pedal. Once they learned where the engagement happened in the pedal’s throw the rest was easy.
- nytesky 2y agoThanks, we are probably past the age and epoch of when paying to learn manual would make sense for DW, but would like my kids to learn. That is so true, finding that spectrum of clutch petal engagement was crucial. I remember when I first learned stomping on the clutch, treating it as a binary mode rather than a gradient.
- ajsnigrutin 2y agoDon't new cars have automatic parking brakes? I drive a manual, and even if you park it in gear, with some bad luck and a slighly "worn down" engine, it'll roll, so most of the people just pull the hand brake.
- dcan 2y agoNope, parking brakes are usually a separate (and traditionally mechanical) system on automatics. Electronic parking brakes are still rare
- ajsnigrutin 2y agoSure, so are on manual cars, but once you go above a "base model" with many cars, you get such goodies like cruise control, automatic AC and automatic parking brakes (which can be a pain to release in case of an electrical failure when towing is needed).
- kccqzy 2y agoI've seen a few electric vehicle models with automatic parking brakes but they literally have to use parking brakes to prevent rolling (they typically have fixed reduction gears). It's somewhat unusual on combustion cars to have automatic parking brakes.
- ajsnigrutin 2y agoOut here in europe, they usually come with the "second cheapest" (and more expensive) options when buying a car (so the base model doesn't have them, but one "level" higher, you get the automatic parking brakes, automatic AC, cruise control, etc.). They're usually a pain, because if you want to tow a vehicle with them, you either have to turn the vehicle on, to disable them (not always an option if it's an electrical issue) you have to find the manual release (if the car has one), or in some cases, even remove both rear tires and unscrew a part of a brake assembly.... but yeah... not that odd, with an old renault, you had to remove a tire to change the front light.
- pengaru 2y ago
- userbinator 2y agoAccording to documents published by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the intermediate shaft and right front driveshaft of certain 2020-2024 Tellurides may not be fully engaged. I was interested in reading the actual cause of this failure, but that's an unusually vague description, unless they actually mean driveshafts that weren't fully inserted into the axle/transmission. Relatedly, I far prefer the old mechanical parking brakes over the electronically-actuated ones which are common now, since you can actually feel them engage. Likewise for the park position of the transmission.
- bigmattystyles 2y agoReminds one of what happened to Anton Yelchin. Poor guy.
- nytesky 2y agoAre the new electronic emergency brakes susceptible to bugs or are they dead simple so unlikely to fail too? The article talks about a faulty parking brake and that users should engage emergency brake. These are not the same thing I take it?
- inhumantsar 2y agothe parking brake is what gets engaged when you put a vehicle with an automatic transmission into park. the emergency brake is separate. usually a handle in the centre console or a small pedal on the left side of the driver side footwell.
- nytesky 2y agoI’ve driven newer rental cars where the emergency brake was engaged by a button on the console. They call it brake hold I think. Can this fail from software bug? https://www.motorbiscuit.com/brake-hold-button-car/ https://www.motorbiscuit.com/brake-hold-button-car/
- Scubabear68 2y agoI have a 2022 Telluride which I recently parked on a steep hill, and I did not set the parking brake. Fortunately nothing happened, but now I feel pretty dumb. I will say it’s the best car I’ve ever owned, and it’s been the top rated 3 row SUV for awhile now. Great features for a great price. Though we did get gouged having to buy in 2022 (old car totaled). It’s only “features” I don’t like seem to be on all new cars, like the engine turn off at a light always defaulting to on, and a too sensitive crash alert function (if the car in front you is turning, it will often think you’re going to crash when you’re not).
- hollywood_court 2y agoThese things are all over my town and surrounding area. I remember two of my neighbors buying them and paying $10k+ dealer markup and I just couldn’t understand why. Kia’s and Hyundais are made in and around the area I live so you see them everywhere but I could never imagine owning one or paying a $10k+ markup. I used to work for a Korean company that supplied parts for Kia/Hyundai. That experience combined with my years of managing an import repair shop means that the only brands of automobile that I would feel comfortable purchasing are Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura.
- thatfrenchguy 2y ago> used to work for a Korean company that supplied parts for Kia/Hyundai. That experience combined with my years of managing an import repair shop means that the only brands of automobile that I would feel comfortable purchasing are Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura. To be fair, as someone who’s owned a 2000 ICE and a 2020 EV Hyundai, they have really upped their game.
- SkyPuncher 2y agoWe bought a Palisade over Ford Explorer. The trim we bought was nicer than a $5k more Explorer in every single way. Even paying $10k over MSRP puts them in line with the segment.
- Solvency 2y agoIt's a KIA what do you expect. It's wild how people forget how shit they are just because they changed their logo.
- snapplebobapple 2y agoIsn't the kia carnival also essentially the same under the hood? Same engine and transmission, I am pretty sure.