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> As much as I dislike Facebook, Twitter, Pintrest, etc, they all are doing fine. Hah, Twitter isn't exactly doing fine
by datpiff 3y ago
> As much as I dislike Facebook, Twitter, Pintrest, etc, they all are doing fine.
Hah, Twitter isn't exactly doing fine
- noworld 3y agoBy what measure?
- tokai 3y agoIncome, engagement, image?
- next_xibalba 3y agoWhat was their 2023 income?
- jujube3 3y agovibes on HackerNews
- thierrydamiba 3y agoI was under the impression Twitter was doing well. What makes you say this?
- iwontberude 3y agoThey were a startup, but now they are a medium sized business with website that burns cash.
- hu3 3y agoAre they still operating red? Got a source?
- fleischhauf 3y agodoes it still burn a lot of cash? I'm not super following, but since it's x 90% of employees were let go, no9
- j4yav 3y agoPerhaps savings from payroll were offset by loan repayments.
- cma 3y agoThey let go of the advertisers too though. 8chan doesn't have a lot of employees either.
- iwontberude 3y agoassuming the horrendously low quality ads and loss in traffic, yes
- RankingMember 3y agoTwitter's daily active user numbers have been in decline since the takeover. https://mashable.com/article/twitter-x-daily-active-users-drop-under-elon-musk https://mashable.com/article/twitter-x-daily-active-users-dr...
- random9749832 3y agoIt feels this way. I feel like I see the same 10 people who are talking about building and being a 10x developer but have 100k tweets and probably liked by the same 1000 accounts, 20% of them being bots.
- nebula8804 3y agoOh man the hustle culture bros! They tweet so much, aren't they supposed to be leveling up? Maybe its the new form of procrastination!
- random9749832 3y agoAdvertisers leaving. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/elon-musk-twitter-x-advertisers.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/elon-musk-twit...
- PurpleRamen 3y agoThey have lost most of their advertisers and serious users, because content has been driven into extreme corners. The platform is now full of bots, scammers and problematic opinions on the political spectrum. Latest I heard, they value of the company has gone down to less than half of what Elon bought it originally. The only who are doing well on Twitter are crypto-scams, Nazis and trolls. But it seems Elon is now in those bubbles active, so maybe that was the intention all along?
- xienze 3y agoSo what Twitter competitor has everyone else gone to?
- JohnFen 3y agoI don't know overall, but most of the people I know who stopped using Twitter didn't replace it with anything.
- kredd 3y agoI mean, I used it about 30 mins/day before, now it’s like 10 or less. Personally haven’t felt the need to find a Twitter-replacement, you just do other stuff more, I guess? It’s like dropping a hobby. You don’t replace it with an exact replica, it just wears off.
- iwontberude 3y agoDiscord, Patreon, Substack, etc
- bbsz 3y agoMaybe, finally, everyone just went outside.
- rayval 3y agoOn Twitter, I never use to get spam DMs but now it is a daily occurrence. I never blocked anyone over 10 years but now I am blocking multiple people per day. I used to never see anti-semitic content, but now I run across it regularly (even though I don't follow similar accounts). I still enjoy interesting discussions on crypto and genAI tech/trends but that is probably not a broad enough audience to be sustainable for Twitter/X.
- thih9 3y agoGiven the amount of counter examples in other comments - what makes you think Twitter is doing well?
- stronglikedan 3y agoIt's doing better than ever IMHO. Much more information due to less censorship and government interference, and the community notes keep things in check with much less bias than the "fact checkers" ever did.
- seattle_spring 3y agoYou mean the community notes that have been disabled for the CEOs account? The account that needs community notes more than any other account on Twitter?
- timeon 3y ago> less censorship and government interference This is not true. Like when they censored Turkish opposition.
- rayval 3y agoThey also censored critics of Modhi's government in India.
- marcinzm 3y agoThe delusions of Musk fanboys know no bounds. > less censorship and government interference > Twitter is complying with more government demands under Elon Musk. The company has not refused a single request since Musk took ownership, according to self-reported data. https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-orders/ https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-or... edit: Not to mention the period bans of Musk's critics.
- ethagknight 3y agoTwitter is the best its ever been in terms of capability and features
- trgn 3y agoCan't read anonymously anymore, which makes it more like facebook/instagram rather than a grassroots news site (which it used to be for a lot of people). It's a big loss I think.
- soylentcola 3y agoYeah, I used to occasionally click twit links when friends shared in chats or they were included in articles. Now I just don't bother because I either see the first of multiple posts in a "thread" or nothing at all. Much like when someone posts a link to Facebook or Instagram. You don't even need SEO chum and AI generated "content" to understand why search engines suck so badly nowadays. The discussions that used to happen on (indexable) forums, blogs, and comments have largely moved behind pay- or login-walls. The fact that so many people resort to appending "reddit" isn't so much a testament to the quality of reddit so much as it's a result of that being one of the few large, centralized platforms that could still be indexed.
- timeon 3y ago> Much like when someone posts a link to Facebook or Instagram. You get ugly amount of pop-ups there but at least the content will load.
- soylentcola 3y agoFor me Facebook is hit-or-miss. If the post is public (say, a venue posting about an event) I can typically read the main post, but can't click on anything. If I'm on mobile, it tries to redirect me to install an app. Usually harder to see much. Instagram just shows me a Meta logo or a blank page. Not sure how much this is due to ad-blocking though, and not particularly inclined to disable it to find out. Mostly I just don't click and I ask the friend/whoever to summarize or send a screenshot if it's something I care about. For generic "hey look at this funny post" stuff I just skip it. Sucks, because links from friends should be fun or useful. It's kinda nuts how many don't work unless you are logged into something snoopy/sketchy.
- xhkkffbf 3y agoWorks fine when I log on. At the beginning of the Musk era, everyone said the technology would fail. That hasn't been my experience. Plenty of tweets appear when I go to the site. Now you might argue that the social networks are failing. There are definitely some people who I don't see any more. But really, there are discussion and I can read them when I want.
- cma 3y agoNow that discussions are ranked by pay, when you read a tweet thread it seems to be just all onlyfans promotion quasi bot accounts but paid blue check, even on machine learning threads and stuff.
- bonzini 3y agoIt may be my bubble, but so many of my followed accounts have left, or stooped using it mostly, that my timeline is almost entirely US politics[1] and meme videos [1] I am not even American
- skywhopper 3y agoPosts show up, but there are far more bugs, and the general experience is slightly worse in lots of ways. Also, the overload of sycophants, trolls, and obvious bots has made it a lot noisier than it used to be.
- timeon 3y ago> everyone said the technology would fail. Most sites are able to operate without login. This is not case for the Twitter. It is operating still yes, but for now in austerity mode.
- s1artibartfast 3y agoNot really my experience with social media. facebook, instagram, pintrest, ticktok, Linkedin all require login. Edit: and HN, but it isn't driven by add revenue. Im not aware of any besides reddit that do not.