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So this is probably indicative of a scandal of some sort right?
by DylanBohlender 3y ago
So this is probably indicative of a scandal of some sort right?
- caust1c 3y agoNot sure that there can be any other interpretation based on my reading of it.
- kylediaz 3y agoIt could possibly have to do with his sister's allegations. It's one of the top autocomplete results when you google "sam altman", so people are definitely talking about it.
- wslh 3y agoThis? https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman-s-sister-annie-altman-claims-sam-has-severely https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...
- o11c 3y agoSeems to be based entirely on "repressed memories" which is junk science. False memories are demonstrably very easy to create.
- Bjorkbat 3y agoHis sister on Twitter made some pretty crazy abuse allegations against him a while back, but it didn't seem to get much coverage outside of the usual Twitter crowd. But who knows, maybe there's a connection.
- buffington 3y agoI don't use Twitter, nor do I really pay attention to Sam Altman, but the allegations of abuse are things I've seen covered. Your use of "crazy abuse allegations" is strange to me as well. I hardly see any of her allegations as being "crazy". Here's a collection of things she's said about the abuse. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman-s-sister-annie-altman-claims-sam-has-severely https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...
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- jurgenaut23 3y agoYes, very likely Altman has done something _very_ wrong, and the board wants to maintain plausible deniability.
- saliagato 3y agoWe all know what. HN moderators are deleting all related comments. Edit: dang is right, sorry y’all
- ro_bit 3y agoShowdead shows one comment that doesn't really bring anything of substance. How many comments can a mod even delete on a 10 minute old post (post origin to the time you wrote your comment)
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- p1esk 3y agoKnow what?
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- parthdesai 3y ago> We all know what Genuinely curious, what is it?
- wahnfrieden 3y agoSexual abuse allegations from his sister.
- ilikehurdles 3y agoI don’t believe accusations from March about something that allegedly happened when he was 13 would be the cause of any of this.
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- prepend 3y agoSounds more like some strategic difference of opinion. My guess is that either they’re financially super hosed. Or one group wants to build skynet and one doesn’t. A scandal would probably be something along the lines of either “we love him and wish him the best” (hidden) or “he doesn’t represent the values of our org and we love XYz” (embraced)
- threatofrain 3y agoWould you call your CEO a liar just because of a strategic difference in opinion?
- svachalek 3y agoRight. We all know the template for differences of opinion. "Sam just really wanted to spend more time with his family. Hugs, Sam!"
- FateOfNations 3y agoIf you started executing your strategy and hid it from the board and told them you were doing what they told you to do, yes.
- jurgenaut23 3y agoNo, this passage tells me that the board wants to cover their ass: "he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board [...]. The board no longer has confidence in his ability to continue leading OpenAI." It's not just a "hey, we don't really agree on x or y so let's part ways". It's more "hey, this guy did something that could get us in jail if we don't cut tie immediately".
- HlessClaudesman 3y agoSomeone at the company did a bad thing, and everything is securities fraud.
- janejeon 3y ago
- cvhashim04 3y agoHostile takeover? Board politics?
- shepardrtc 3y agoSatya going for the throat
- atlasunshrugged 3y agoHis sister had levied allegations of abuse https://www.themarysue.com/annie-altmans-abuse-allegations-against-openais-sam-altman-highlight-the-need-to-prioritize-humanity-over-tech/ https://www.themarysue.com/annie-altmans-abuse-allegations-a...
- OfficialTurkey 3y agoI don't think this is it. The allegations aren't brand new and the board says he lied.
- bosie 3y agoi assume you mean she lied?
- sparkling 3y agoFrom the website: > "[...] If someone — correction, if generally a white, cis man — presents himself with enough confidence, then venture capitalists, media [...]" I stopped reading right there. This kind of race-baiting adds zero context to the story (which may or may not be true).
- whatamidoingyo 3y agoSame. Don't know why you got downvoted.
- arcatech 3y agoHow a person is perceived based on race and gender is definitely relevant context for this.
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- astrange 3y agoThe "white cis man" stuff isn't an incisive comment, it's an academic's way of trying to get into an insult war with other academics. Constantly calling out "cis men" is in fact transphobic, which is how you can tell they don't care about it. If you think cis men and trans men behave differently or are always treated differently, this means you don't think they're both men. Also sama is not white. Although he does appear to have gotten a series of jobs with not a lot of experience by convincing Paul Graham to figuratively adopt him.
- stg22 3y ago"he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board" = "He lied to us about something important" Murati's selection as interim CEO is a surprise and might be an attempt to distance the company from whatever the board is claiming Altman lied about.
- golergka 3y agoThose kinds of news are usually sugar coated to the point of caramelisation. This one isn't. It must be something very ugly.