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Swedish cities hit by four residential explosions in an hour
- doYouHaveAStudy 3y agoIt’s hard to know how to react because the article doesn’t give any historical rates of these residential explosions. Residential explosions could actually be down for all we know.
- zmodem 3y agoFrom the article: > In 2022, there were 90 explosions and 101 cases of attempted bombings or preparations for bombings in Sweden, according to police data. As of 15 August this year, 109 explosions had been recorded.
- spants 3y agoit would be interesting to go back a few years to see how Sweden has changed. Has there been a huge increase in crimes in the last 10 years or so?.
- Pungsnigel 3y agoGun violence and these explosions have been going up quite a bit last few years at least. Anecdotal (Sweden here) people in my closest circle feel a lot less safe, and less comfortable in public spaces, compared to a few years ago. Not to a huge extent, but noticeable.
- lucasRW 3y agoWait, is that question serious or you are really prentending you don't know what "changed" in Sweden, or in another European countries, over the past 10 or 20 years :-) ?!
- christkv 3y agoMore than 100 so far this year in Sweden and over 100 last year.
- mberning 3y ago4 in one hour happens all the time.
- dathinab 3y agovery many not a new problem but an increasing problem through most times targeting property and no people damage
- porkbeer 3y agoIt's a rather recent problem, as noted by tfa.
- dathinab 3y agoif it's very new why was my swedish coworker from a few years ago going on and on about the government still but having gotten that problem under control even after years through he was also speaking about self build pipe bombs instead of imported hand grenades through I might be missing something
- tomp 3y ago"residential explosions" sounds like it was gas leaks or some other accidents, but in fact it was "gang bombings" according to the text of the article
- tokai 3y agoNothing confirmed yet, but its usually hand grenades.
- pclmulqdq 3y agoWait, "usually"? This is a usual occurrence in Sweden?
- ngc248 3y agoThere is a wiki page too --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Swe...
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- madspindel 3y agoYes, huge problem here. I don't even care anymore when I hear about it.
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- hef19898 3y agoSince immigrants in Germany are not throwing grenades, it is an unnecessary generalozation. It is also an over simplification of the situation in Sweden. And premature, as nothing seems to be known for certain yet. And it is a tiny bit racist, ypur comment I mean.
- boesboes 3y agoWe have a similar explosives surge in the Netherlands, all gang related. It seems like blowing each others shit up is a bit of a trend in those circles. Could there be any particular reason why this has become more popular? Is gang violence up in general? New release of the anarchy cookbook perhaps haha?
- tenpies 3y agoBroadly speaking, violence has been up in Europe post-lockdowns. Something about having a lot of people with few ties to a community, having no economic prospects and strained welfare systems. Then add the EU's self-destructive path in order to "stick it to Putin". For Sweden in the particular, I believe they also have an idiot compassion problem in their judicial system beyond even most "progressive" justice systems. So for example, if you're under 15 you cannot go to juvenile jail in Sweden because it does not exist. End result, gangs were recruiting 15s and under. I'm not entirely sure if Sweden ever got around to changing that.
- blablablerg 3y agoThey realized: - More chance of getting away with it vs (attempted) assassination, since you usually don't cause bodily injury or death (so police divert less resources to the crime) and you are well away on your scooter when the explosion happens. Lately more have been getting caught however. Still the punishment then is less than with (attempted) murder. - More kids willing to do it, because punishment is lower, and chance to get caught is lower. - Besides the intimidating effect, it creates pressure on the victim by the neighbors and the government, because they now suspect the victim is a criminal and want it to stop. It can even lead to eviction. All in all in pretty good way to pester your enemies without escalating to murder.
- imartin2k 3y agoInteresting. A question: Can regular citizen protect their address in The Netherlands, or are addresses public and searchable online, as in Sweden? That's somewhat of a pet peeve I have with the Swedish situation. Due to the country's transparency principles (which I in general consider a good thing), everyone's registered address and other personal details are easily searchable online for everybody through numerous different services. Including who you live with, and lots of other information. So basically, to use US lingo, the government is doxxing everyone by default. There's no way to opt out of this, except if you are already subject to a documented threat (but then it's obviously already too late and you likely are forced to move), or if you belong to a small group of professions that might be considered particularly vulnerable. In consequence, you can easily and anonymously look up where your enemies, or their relatives, live. I don't see how this is not contributing to the problem. Potentially even being one of its major drivers. However, there's basically zero public or political debate about changing this part. In fact, most people in Sweden are completely oblivious to the idea that it could be different. That as a citizen you might want to have the right to choose whether your address is available to the public or not. Even though that choice is the norm in most countries, afaik. So I find that totally annoying. Making it harder to look up where someone lives, would likely, over time, reduce the number of attacks on buildings (which not only include bombs, but also shootings at buildings). There are probably tens of thousands of households across Sweden who experience an elevated risk of being exposed to bombings or shootings, as gang-related individuals (or their family members) are living in their buildings. So this is a real crisis, I would say.
- WaitWaitWha 3y agoCan someone give some details or references on these gangs?
- nonethewiser 3y agoNo, that would be racist
- demosito666 3y agoWhat baffles me about this "gang-related" cases of violence is that it's presumably over drug money. And Sweden has rather low drug consumption level and is essentially cashless, so any transaction larger than shopping for groceries goes via a bank. And Swedish banks are very transparent and compliant and have very strict KYC/AML rules. I once had to explain to the bank why my friend transferred me an equivalent of $200 and every ATM deposit as well, even if it's $20. How the fuck are the drug money passed around in enough quantities to warrant "gang wars" here?
- dist-epoch 3y agoI'm pretty sure drug users in Sweden don't buy drugs with their credit card.
- demosito666 3y agoYes, but I mean it should presumably be very hard to even spend the money for the sellers here, let alone to launder them, which will be needed if you're selling all the time.
- zmodem 3y agoThey use Swish: https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/hundreds-of-suspected-cocaine-buyers-revealed-in-sundsvall https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/hundreds-of-suspected-cocai...
- demosito666 3y agoAnd again the same question: I have a friend who had to physically go to the restaurant to get a confirmation that he in fact had paid about $250 for dinner for six people and they then swished him back. How will you explain hundreds of transactions a month when you don't even have an official source of income?
- trhow234898 3y agoGuns are also illegal there... It is almost like gangs do not respect regulations...
- mensetmanusman 3y agoThe murder rate is still 4x higher in the US. Guns are far more effective than bombs. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Sweden/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Sweden/Uni...
- Gareth321 3y agoIt's not okay just because somewhere else is worse. Gun crime is decreasing across Europe, except Sweden. Something is structurally wrong. https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-peaceful-sweden-became-europes-gun-murder-capital-a5b500a7 https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-peaceful-sweden-became-euro...
- porkbeer 3y agoGuns also prevent about as many attacks as they are uzed in. Grenades are not typically used defensively.
- shrimp_emoji 3y agoNorth America is Borderlands Pandora compared to Northern Europe, so of course. :p
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- INTPenis 3y agoNot trying to belittle what happened but there have literally been weekly gang land hits in Sweden this whole year, so 4 explosions, or hits, in one day was a statistical inevitability. It has gotten very, very bad. It reminds me of some large American cities in the 80s and 90s, except spread out across the country, in comparatively smaller cities. Disclaimer, I'm a Swede born in the 80s. I've merely heard of what happened in the states through popular media, interviews with gang members and stuff like that. What we're seeing here now, resembles that very much. Isolated areas, people who live their whole short lives in a bubble of gangs, drawing down on sight. Fueds always start over money, or hurt pride, but they can keep going for however long the involved members are active. I remember the big biker wars of the 90s[1], with a total registered death toll of a dozen. Now that's a bad month in Sweden. However you approach this debate, it needs to happen. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Biker_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Biker_War