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"When I developed the Famicom, I put all the basic functions that were necessary to make it as a gaming device. For the Switch, it's inherited all that over the

"When I developed the Famicom, I put all the basic functions that were necessary to make it as a gaming device. For the Switch, it's inherited all that over the years. All the successes and failures of the Famicom are inherited by the next generation of consoles and onward." What did he consider to be the failures? EDIT: Added the first sentence of the quote. The way I read the quote is he felt there where fundamental designs decisions that have been passed down all the way to the Switch. Some of which he considers to be failures. I imagine he is talking about the hardware/software stack. OS seems pretty custom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_softwar...

Aeolun 5y ago
Blowing on the cardridge? It didn’t work for the Famicon, and it has even less effect with the Switch.
- foo_barrio 5y ago
  Perhaps the repeated insertions/removals did clear off any light oxidation or slightly reposition the contacts?
  - aidenn0 5y ago
    Insertions and removals did work well on the Famicom, but not so much on the NES; the famicom had a typical edge-connector while the NES had a zero-insertion-force (ZIF) connector. The pins would be repositioned with each insertion and you had to hope that all 72 pins made a good-enough contact. If the 10NES made poor contact you got a 1Hz reboot loop. If other pins made poor contact the game would kind-of sort-of work until it crashed.
  - conductr 5y ago
    I'll never believe it. Blowing was required and technique mattered.
GhettoComputers 5y ago
The virtual boy was a failure by any measure, 64DD, the Wii U sucked, and the 3DS wasn’t very popular compared to the DS, and wouldn’t have had any success if it didn’t have backwards compatibility.
- com2kid 5y ago
  Wii U was a marketing disaster. It was a very fun console. It is unfortunate that asymmetrical game play wasn't explored more. It really was the first step towards what the Switch is now. Being able to remotely play games anywhere in my house, or have someone else watch TV while I played on the Wii U, was super cool.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    It was overpriced, the small screen sucked, and it had no games, polar opposite of the wii, it was just the DS in console form which was forced into using this for every game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCube_–_Game_Boy_Advance_link_cable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCube_–_Game_Boy_Advance_li... like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Crystal_Chronicles_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Crystal_Chronicl...
    - com2kid 5y ago
      > It was overpriced, the small screen sucked, and it had no games And $ for $ I had more fun with my Wii U than my Xbox One. Nintendo's Wii U games were full of joy and happiness. They are all an absolute delight to play.
    - danbolt 5y ago
      Wait, you didn't like Crystal Chronicles? Maybe I'm just a nostalgic millennial, but I thought the game's aesthetic was pristine and the multiplayer super clever. It's up there with Pac Man Vs. for that sort of thing.
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
ipodopt 5y ago
Hardware on the Switch seems standard:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch#Hardware https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch#Hardware I wonder if his comments mean their Switch OS is emulating antiquated calls that have lineage to the original NES hardware.
- monocasa 5y ago
  There wasn't any system software on the NES, even to the point of no ubiquitous libraries, so it's doubtful.
- deleted 5y ago
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- noobermin 5y ago
  There are no "antiquated calls" on a machine which had no os or standard library :) Anyway, the switch not being special technology wise is very inline with the nintendo philosophy actually[0]. The NES wasn't that special for the time either, having not as that great specs of consoles in the late second generation, but it was how it was used, the games that came with it that made history. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpei_Yokoi#Lateral_Thinking_with_Withered_Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpei_Yokoi#Lateral_Thinking_...
conductr 5y ago
I think the quote isn't meant for such literal interpretation. Basically, saying they have all learned from good and bad things which puts them to where they are today. It's like one of those "I regret nothing because without my failures I wouldn't be the person I am today" type quotes.
- ipodopt 5y ago
  Yeah, I like that interpretation.

Aeolun 5y ago

Blowing on the cardridge? It didn’t work for the Famicon, and it has even less effect with the Switch.

foo_barrio 5y ago
Perhaps the repeated insertions/removals did clear off any light oxidation or slightly reposition the contacts?
- aidenn0 5y ago
  Insertions and removals did work well on the Famicom, but not so much on the NES; the famicom had a typical edge-connector while the NES had a zero-insertion-force (ZIF) connector. The pins would be repositioned with each insertion and you had to hope that all 72 pins made a good-enough contact. If the 10NES made poor contact you got a 1Hz reboot loop. If other pins made poor contact the game would kind-of sort-of work until it crashed.
- conductr 5y ago
  I'll never believe it. Blowing was required and technique mattered.

GhettoComputers 5y ago

The virtual boy was a failure by any measure, 64DD, the Wii U sucked, and the 3DS wasn’t very popular compared to the DS, and wouldn’t have had any success if it didn’t have backwards compatibility.

com2kid 5y ago
Wii U was a marketing disaster. It was a very fun console. It is unfortunate that asymmetrical game play wasn't explored more. It really was the first step towards what the Switch is now. Being able to remotely play games anywhere in my house, or have someone else watch TV while I played on the Wii U, was super cool.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  It was overpriced, the small screen sucked, and it had no games, polar opposite of the wii, it was just the DS in console form which was forced into using this for every game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCube_–_Game_Boy_Advance_link_cable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCube_–_Game_Boy_Advance_li... like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Crystal_Chronicles_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Crystal_Chronicl...
  - com2kid 5y ago
    > It was overpriced, the small screen sucked, and it had no games And $ for $ I had more fun with my Wii U than my Xbox One. Nintendo's Wii U games were full of joy and happiness. They are all an absolute delight to play.
  - danbolt 5y ago
    Wait, you didn't like Crystal Chronicles? Maybe I'm just a nostalgic millennial, but I thought the game's aesthetic was pristine and the multiplayer super clever. It's up there with Pac Man Vs. for that sort of thing.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago

ipodopt 5y ago

Hardware on the Switch seems standard:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch#Hardware https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch#Hardware I wonder if his comments mean their Switch OS is emulating antiquated calls that have lineage to the original NES hardware.

monocasa 5y ago
There wasn't any system software on the NES, even to the point of no ubiquitous libraries, so it's doubtful.
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noobermin 5y ago
There are no "antiquated calls" on a machine which had no os or standard library :) Anyway, the switch not being special technology wise is very inline with the nintendo philosophy actually[0]. The NES wasn't that special for the time either, having not as that great specs of consoles in the late second generation, but it was how it was used, the games that came with it that made history. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpei_Yokoi#Lateral_Thinking_with_Withered_Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpei_Yokoi#Lateral_Thinking_...

conductr 5y ago

I think the quote isn't meant for such literal interpretation. Basically, saying they have all learned from good and bad things which puts them to where they are today. It's like one of those "I regret nothing because without my failures I wouldn't be the person I am today" type quotes.

ipodopt 5y ago
Yeah, I like that interpretation.