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It's a peer-to-peer video client, with part of it's data being directly shared (similarly to torrents) and part via a blockchain. This makes it highly resistant

It's a peer-to-peer video client, with part of it's data being directly shared (similarly to torrents) and part via a blockchain. This makes it highly resistant to censorship and thus is where many people are moving their channels to.

corobo 5y ago
> This makes it highly resistant to censorship We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism"
- zbrozek 5y ago
  Certainly wasn't my first thought. Though there may be a better phrase.
- martin_a 5y ago
  Yeah, sounds like an unregulated place for all the people who were thrown out by those with at least some ethics left. update: yeah, downvotes, whatever... "censorship" these days is often enough because people tell other people to use horse dewormer or drink bleach. It's not because they're having highly sophisticated discussions about global politics, but simply because they're actively harming people, spreading hate and whatnot. platforms should be able to decide whether they want to "poison" their living room by giving a platform to such content.
  - TheRealPomax 5y ago
    Not everything's for just the US.
  - dmantis 5y ago
    US guy detected. Go travel to Russia, China, Middle East and other funny countries, you would find a lot of interesting things which you can be jailed for, not just banned by gov request on social media platform. If you talk about international platforms, you should kinda think about that.
    - martin_a 5y ago
      I'm from Germany, don't worry about US bias. And I think it's fair that people in Germany are not allowed to deny that the Holocaust has happened. Call it whatever you like but remembering this monstrosity is the least thing we can do and far-right idiots don't need to have a platform for telling otherwise.
  - bloopernova 5y ago
    And the folks downvoting you would probably call themselves "free speech advocates". Which in my experience means they speak from a position of high privilege to not see the massive negative effects of the hate speech they strive to protect. Or that their purpose on this site is to spread division and hate.
- christophilus 5y ago
  > ok so other than this channel it's all racism It's sad that that was your instant thought. My experience so far with Odysee has been pretty good. It's no YouTube, but for the channels I follow, it's good enough. I hope it continues to to build momentum.
  - intpx 5y ago
    the only thing sad is that its the reality of the situation. Tor started off with some pretty pie in the sky ideals and now over half of its active use is for illegal activity. Tech censorship doesn't even register on the scales of stuff that is de-platformed from social networking platforms.
    - brigandish 5y ago
      illegal activity is a phrase that covers things that are actually wrong, and increasingly, things that we are told are wrong by our betters. How much of the “over half” is the former and how much is the latter?
      - fao_ 5y ago
        Given that CSA, human trafficking, etc. and political extremism were/are rife on Tor, I would say that just because you bought some weed from Tor, doesn't make it a paradise
        brigandish 5y ago
        I don't smoke weed. What was your point?
    - ArtDev 5y ago
      A lot of the content removed on Youtube is fan fiction. Many companies are effectively IP trolls. Games Workshop, for example.
  - sanderjd 5y ago
    It definitely is sad, but the sad part is that it's a true comment on human nature. Every other application that advertises in this way has eventually ended up being primarily used for racism, glorifying violence, and spreading falsehood. What happens is that even if they attract good natured users early on, they are eventually discovered by people who have been run off of other platforms after publishing actually awful things, and then the good intentioned early users leave because they don't want to be associated with that newly dominant crowd on the platform. It's a constant pattern.
- bArray 5y ago
  Sure, racists are censored by big tech, but also hackers/security researchers (if they show exploits for example), qualified medical doctors/researchers who oppose the official position of the WHO, journalists that share disturbing news (Facebook have been long deleting records of atrocities in Myanmar for example), creators that show the method for recreating dangerous experiments, etc, etc. And that's not to mention the selective monetization and promotion as a backdoor form of censorship too. I think this just points out a fundamental misconception that censorship only applies to the ideas you oppose to and nothing else. I believe it's fully correct for the word 'censorship' to be used in this context.
  - int_19h 5y ago
    "Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news—things which on their own merits would get the big headlines—being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact. So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics. But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is ‘not done’ to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was ‘not done’ to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals." "One of the peculiar phenomena of our time is the renegade Liberal. Over and above the familiar Marxist claim that ‘bourgeois liberty’ is an illusion, there is now a widespread tendency to argue that one can only defend democracy by totalitarian methods. If one loves democracy, the argument runs, one must crush its enemies by no matter what means. And who are its enemies? It always appears that they are not only those who attack it openly and consciously, but those who ‘objectively’ endanger it by spreading mistaken doctrines. In other words, defending democracy involves destroying all independence of thought." "The word ancient emphasises the fact that intellectual freedom is a deep-rooted tradition without which our characteristic western culture could only doubtfully exist. From that tradition many of our intellectuals are visibly turning away. They have accepted the principle that a book should be published or suppressed, praised or damned, not on its merits but according to political expediency. And others who do not actually hold this view assent to it from sheer cowardice." Sounds familiar? It was written during WW2: https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/the-freedom-of-the-press/ https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwel...
- JasonFruit 5y ago
  And people opposing powerful institutions, and people who are concerned they may be censored in the future, and people who love free speech and want to enrich any medium that promotes it, and people who have unpopular opinions, right or wrong... and some racists too. That's the way freedom works: some people use it to do good stuff, and some people don't. I believe it's worth it, even if some people might hurt others' feelings.
- bmsd_0923 5y ago
  What we really need is to stop listening to people who have this kind of attitude.
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- slightwinder 5y ago
  This is not so far from the truth. In the past, censorship usually only happens to people doing something illegal, meaning copyright infringement, radical political content or other disturbing content (usually porn or violence-related). So most of those people have seek for alternative platforms where they are free. But more and more the line is shifting, and we see censorship happening with far tamer content. Youtube specifically seems to crack down on security-related content for a while now. I've seen similar things happening over trivial content in the past. Things which nobody working in the business would consider as problematic, like how to setup VPN and firewalls. It's not really clear why this is happening. People at Youtube are claiming the content seems to be ok, but system says nope.
  - pm90 5y ago
    > In the past, censorship usually only happens to people doing something illegal What past are you talking about? Censorship has been everywhere for most of human history.
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- throwaway316943 5y ago
  > If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind. >…the peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error. —John Stuart Mill, On Liberty Truth is not determined by a list of approved opinions, it can only be revealed by rigorously disproving everything that opposes it. All these calls for censorship make me think we really are doomed to repeat history forever.
  - a_c 5y ago
    Much debate in the society stems from unfalsifiability
  - causi 5y ago
    Everyone always seems happy to carve out their own exceptions to freedom of expression. Freedom, except for racism. Freedom, except for transgenderism. Freedom, except for porn. Freedom, except for violence. Freedom, except for political dissent or mis-gendering or the promotion or criticism of a religion. As someone who falls near the middle on most issues I probably detest a larger percentage of speakers than anyone who's solidly on the Left or the Right, but I have no issue understanding that my freedom depends on their freedom. If the people I despise are not free to speak then neither am I.
    - sanderjd 5y ago
      The privilege to broadcast thoughts to billions of people at no cost is one that we just invented in the last twenty years. It is not a right.
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- burnished 5y ago
  I see you are getting a lot of pushback and I think its unwarranted. I agree with you, the phrase is becoming tainted. I would like a way to differentiate between places that are wary of the whims of power and places where opinions are so appalling they can't be a part of polite society. We currently talk about them the same, and there has been an uptick of the latter recently that makes being able to differentiate more relevant. As a side note its sort of interesting to me how your un-popular, perhaps controversial yet not particularly offensive opinion is going to be censored from this discussion in which people are opposing your perhaps reasonable association with the phrase 'resistant to censorship'. "how dare they voice a dissenting opinion!" they might tell themselves, as they press the little button that will make your words fade away.
  - drcongo 5y ago
    I'm the asker of the original question, and I actually agree with you on a lot of this. As soon as I read @fragileone and @iotku's excellent answers to my question my heart sank a little at the thought of a site even more racist than YouTube. Almost every site that pops up claiming an anti-censorship position is quickly filled with pretty abhorrent content. Downvoting someone on HN for pointing it out doesn't make it untrue.
    - int_19h 5y ago
      It gets filled with all kinds of content, of which racism and other far-right talk is merely the most visible part because it's in the spotlight. But it's not just far right that's getting "deplatformed". Even politically, there are plenty of leftist groups that were wiped out from e.g. Facebook during the recent purges. All those people also have to look for other platforms.
      - drcongo 5y ago
        I'm not saying there aren't other valid uses, just that racism is pretty much guaranteed on a no-censorship site. It _should_ be something that we can all agree on as being "bad", even when dressed in its Sunday best from the likes of Jordan Peterson.
- afroboy 5y ago
  You can always downvote.
- lelanthran 5y ago
  >> This makes it highly resistant to censorship > We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature > Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism" If you want to be in a place where only approved thoughts are allowed, there's plenty of places in the world and on the net that would accommodate you right now. No need to turn every place into an arm of Mini-truth.
- ArtDev 5y ago
  Fan fiction has a lot of problems with censorship as well. Recently, Games Workshop went after all fan animations on Youtube based on the fictional sci-fi setting it owns; Warhammer 40,000.
- wiskinator 5y ago
  You're getting downvoted, but I completely agree. 'Resistant to censorship' has become a dogwhistle for "you can post your racist / fascist BS here".
- CyanBird 5y ago
  My first thought was "oh the heck will you take out all the porn and potential faaar more ilegal types of porn from that" And "I don't want to need down load a ledger which might contain even encrypted versions of that"
- Igelau 5y ago
  You seem to have missed the thread topic and are make-believing that "censorship" is a dog whistle. Not a fun game.
iotku 5y ago
It's worth noting that while based on LBRY (The supposedly censorship resistant blockchain protocol) Odysee is a bit more opinionated front end with restrictions on things such as pornography. By the standards of "alternative" video sites there's a pretty diverse set of content including mirrors from some well known YouTube creators (KhanAcademy, EEVBlog, GreatScott, Veritasium, HarwareUnboxed, Not Just Bikes, EposVox) who don't produce heavily political content (whereas many other alt tech video sites are just 99% political content going a single direction) Given goals towards freedom of speech, some content won't align with you politically (and some might), but there's enough decent content that you can potentially use it as an alternative platform successfully.
- laurent92 5y ago
  Veritasium is not political? He is, very. It’s just that you don’t see it. It’s not an accusation, just a reminder that the background noise is non-neutral, and he doesn’t contrast very much on your background ;)
  - wiskinator 5y ago
    In what ways? I'm just curious. The channel doesn't seem political to me either, so I want to investigate my blindspots.
  - iotku 5y ago
    Eh perhaps, I revised the comment a few times here and there. I guess I would say I'm aiming towards examples that are big enough to be notable and not just directly focused on political analysis or similar or type channels. A lot of what throws somewhat sane people (I would include myself in that but of course I'm biased) off of using the alternate video sites is the second you load up the home page of something like BitChute or rumble and see nearly an entire page full heavily one-sided political content and many (justifiably) believe there's no content for them if they don't align there. Odysee could use some more quality content for sure, but they at least operate in such a way that I'm not convinced they're only for one type of content and some of the creators I watch in Linux/technology space have somewhat of a presence there.
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bitL 5y ago
Can you self-host it like PeerTube?
- 2Gkashmiri 5y ago
  there is something called tilvids.com that hosts educational as well as edutainment content. a good fit for the linuxexperiment. either that or do like videos.lukesmith.xyz and build your own. It is really not difficult or does not cost a fortune

corobo 5y ago

> This makes it highly resistant to censorship We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism"

zbrozek 5y ago
Certainly wasn't my first thought. Though there may be a better phrase.
martin_a 5y ago
Yeah, sounds like an unregulated place for all the people who were thrown out by those with at least some ethics left. update: yeah, downvotes, whatever... "censorship" these days is often enough because people tell other people to use horse dewormer or drink bleach. It's not because they're having highly sophisticated discussions about global politics, but simply because they're actively harming people, spreading hate and whatnot. platforms should be able to decide whether they want to "poison" their living room by giving a platform to such content.
- TheRealPomax 5y ago
  Not everything's for just the US.
- dmantis 5y ago
  US guy detected. Go travel to Russia, China, Middle East and other funny countries, you would find a lot of interesting things which you can be jailed for, not just banned by gov request on social media platform. If you talk about international platforms, you should kinda think about that.
  - martin_a 5y ago
    I'm from Germany, don't worry about US bias. And I think it's fair that people in Germany are not allowed to deny that the Holocaust has happened. Call it whatever you like but remembering this monstrosity is the least thing we can do and far-right idiots don't need to have a platform for telling otherwise.
- bloopernova 5y ago
  And the folks downvoting you would probably call themselves "free speech advocates". Which in my experience means they speak from a position of high privilege to not see the massive negative effects of the hate speech they strive to protect. Or that their purpose on this site is to spread division and hate.
christophilus 5y ago
> ok so other than this channel it's all racism It's sad that that was your instant thought. My experience so far with Odysee has been pretty good. It's no YouTube, but for the channels I follow, it's good enough. I hope it continues to to build momentum.
- intpx 5y ago
  the only thing sad is that its the reality of the situation. Tor started off with some pretty pie in the sky ideals and now over half of its active use is for illegal activity. Tech censorship doesn't even register on the scales of stuff that is de-platformed from social networking platforms.
  - brigandish 5y ago
    illegal activity is a phrase that covers things that are actually wrong, and increasingly, things that we are told are wrong by our betters. How much of the “over half” is the former and how much is the latter?
    - fao_ 5y ago
      Given that CSA, human trafficking, etc. and political extremism were/are rife on Tor, I would say that just because you bought some weed from Tor, doesn't make it a paradise
      - brigandish 5y ago
        I don't smoke weed. What was your point?
  - ArtDev 5y ago
    A lot of the content removed on Youtube is fan fiction. Many companies are effectively IP trolls. Games Workshop, for example.
- sanderjd 5y ago
  It definitely is sad, but the sad part is that it's a true comment on human nature. Every other application that advertises in this way has eventually ended up being primarily used for racism, glorifying violence, and spreading falsehood. What happens is that even if they attract good natured users early on, they are eventually discovered by people who have been run off of other platforms after publishing actually awful things, and then the good intentioned early users leave because they don't want to be associated with that newly dominant crowd on the platform. It's a constant pattern.
bArray 5y ago
Sure, racists are censored by big tech, but also hackers/security researchers (if they show exploits for example), qualified medical doctors/researchers who oppose the official position of the WHO, journalists that share disturbing news (Facebook have been long deleting records of atrocities in Myanmar for example), creators that show the method for recreating dangerous experiments, etc, etc. And that's not to mention the selective monetization and promotion as a backdoor form of censorship too. I think this just points out a fundamental misconception that censorship only applies to the ideas you oppose to and nothing else. I believe it's fully correct for the word 'censorship' to be used in this context.
- int_19h 5y ago
  "Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news—things which on their own merits would get the big headlines—being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact. So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics. But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is ‘not done’ to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was ‘not done’ to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals." "One of the peculiar phenomena of our time is the renegade Liberal. Over and above the familiar Marxist claim that ‘bourgeois liberty’ is an illusion, there is now a widespread tendency to argue that one can only defend democracy by totalitarian methods. If one loves democracy, the argument runs, one must crush its enemies by no matter what means. And who are its enemies? It always appears that they are not only those who attack it openly and consciously, but those who ‘objectively’ endanger it by spreading mistaken doctrines. In other words, defending democracy involves destroying all independence of thought." "The word ancient emphasises the fact that intellectual freedom is a deep-rooted tradition without which our characteristic western culture could only doubtfully exist. From that tradition many of our intellectuals are visibly turning away. They have accepted the principle that a book should be published or suppressed, praised or damned, not on its merits but according to political expediency. And others who do not actually hold this view assent to it from sheer cowardice." Sounds familiar? It was written during WW2: https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/the-freedom-of-the-press/ https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwel...
JasonFruit 5y ago
And people opposing powerful institutions, and people who are concerned they may be censored in the future, and people who love free speech and want to enrich any medium that promotes it, and people who have unpopular opinions, right or wrong... and some racists too. That's the way freedom works: some people use it to do good stuff, and some people don't. I believe it's worth it, even if some people might hurt others' feelings.
bmsd_0923 5y ago
What we really need is to stop listening to people who have this kind of attitude.
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slightwinder 5y ago
This is not so far from the truth. In the past, censorship usually only happens to people doing something illegal, meaning copyright infringement, radical political content or other disturbing content (usually porn or violence-related). So most of those people have seek for alternative platforms where they are free. But more and more the line is shifting, and we see censorship happening with far tamer content. Youtube specifically seems to crack down on security-related content for a while now. I've seen similar things happening over trivial content in the past. Things which nobody working in the business would consider as problematic, like how to setup VPN and firewalls. It's not really clear why this is happening. People at Youtube are claiming the content seems to be ok, but system says nope.
- pm90 5y ago
  > In the past, censorship usually only happens to people doing something illegal What past are you talking about? Censorship has been everywhere for most of human history.
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throwaway316943 5y ago
> If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind. >…the peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error. —John Stuart Mill, On Liberty Truth is not determined by a list of approved opinions, it can only be revealed by rigorously disproving everything that opposes it. All these calls for censorship make me think we really are doomed to repeat history forever.
- a_c 5y ago
  Much debate in the society stems from unfalsifiability
- causi 5y ago
  Everyone always seems happy to carve out their own exceptions to freedom of expression. Freedom, except for racism. Freedom, except for transgenderism. Freedom, except for porn. Freedom, except for violence. Freedom, except for political dissent or mis-gendering or the promotion or criticism of a religion. As someone who falls near the middle on most issues I probably detest a larger percentage of speakers than anyone who's solidly on the Left or the Right, but I have no issue understanding that my freedom depends on their freedom. If the people I despise are not free to speak then neither am I.
  - sanderjd 5y ago
    The privilege to broadcast thoughts to billions of people at no cost is one that we just invented in the last twenty years. It is not a right.
    - commandlinefan 5y ago
burnished 5y ago
I see you are getting a lot of pushback and I think its unwarranted. I agree with you, the phrase is becoming tainted. I would like a way to differentiate between places that are wary of the whims of power and places where opinions are so appalling they can't be a part of polite society. We currently talk about them the same, and there has been an uptick of the latter recently that makes being able to differentiate more relevant. As a side note its sort of interesting to me how your un-popular, perhaps controversial yet not particularly offensive opinion is going to be censored from this discussion in which people are opposing your perhaps reasonable association with the phrase 'resistant to censorship'. "how dare they voice a dissenting opinion!" they might tell themselves, as they press the little button that will make your words fade away.
- drcongo 5y ago
  I'm the asker of the original question, and I actually agree with you on a lot of this. As soon as I read @fragileone and @iotku's excellent answers to my question my heart sank a little at the thought of a site even more racist than YouTube. Almost every site that pops up claiming an anti-censorship position is quickly filled with pretty abhorrent content. Downvoting someone on HN for pointing it out doesn't make it untrue.
  - int_19h 5y ago
    It gets filled with all kinds of content, of which racism and other far-right talk is merely the most visible part because it's in the spotlight. But it's not just far right that's getting "deplatformed". Even politically, there are plenty of leftist groups that were wiped out from e.g. Facebook during the recent purges. All those people also have to look for other platforms.
    - drcongo 5y ago
      I'm not saying there aren't other valid uses, just that racism is pretty much guaranteed on a no-censorship site. It _should_ be something that we can all agree on as being "bad", even when dressed in its Sunday best from the likes of Jordan Peterson.
afroboy 5y ago
You can always downvote.
lelanthran 5y ago
>> This makes it highly resistant to censorship > We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature > Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism" If you want to be in a place where only approved thoughts are allowed, there's plenty of places in the world and on the net that would accommodate you right now. No need to turn every place into an arm of Mini-truth.
ArtDev 5y ago
Fan fiction has a lot of problems with censorship as well. Recently, Games Workshop went after all fan animations on Youtube based on the fictional sci-fi setting it owns; Warhammer 40,000.
wiskinator 5y ago
You're getting downvoted, but I completely agree. 'Resistant to censorship' has become a dogwhistle for "you can post your racist / fascist BS here".
CyanBird 5y ago
My first thought was "oh the heck will you take out all the porn and potential faaar more ilegal types of porn from that" And "I don't want to need down load a ledger which might contain even encrypted versions of that"
Igelau 5y ago
You seem to have missed the thread topic and are make-believing that "censorship" is a dog whistle. Not a fun game.

iotku 5y ago

It's worth noting that while based on LBRY (The supposedly censorship resistant blockchain protocol) Odysee is a bit more opinionated front end with restrictions on things such as pornography. By the standards of "alternative" video sites there's a pretty diverse set of content including mirrors from some well known YouTube creators (KhanAcademy, EEVBlog, GreatScott, Veritasium, HarwareUnboxed, Not Just Bikes, EposVox) who don't produce heavily political content (whereas many other alt tech video sites are just 99% political content going a single direction) Given goals towards freedom of speech, some content won't align with you politically (and some might), but there's enough decent content that you can potentially use it as an alternative platform successfully.

laurent92 5y ago
Veritasium is not political? He is, very. It’s just that you don’t see it. It’s not an accusation, just a reminder that the background noise is non-neutral, and he doesn’t contrast very much on your background ;)
- wiskinator 5y ago
  In what ways? I'm just curious. The channel doesn't seem political to me either, so I want to investigate my blindspots.
- iotku 5y ago
  Eh perhaps, I revised the comment a few times here and there. I guess I would say I'm aiming towards examples that are big enough to be notable and not just directly focused on political analysis or similar or type channels. A lot of what throws somewhat sane people (I would include myself in that but of course I'm biased) off of using the alternate video sites is the second you load up the home page of something like BitChute or rumble and see nearly an entire page full heavily one-sided political content and many (justifiably) believe there's no content for them if they don't align there. Odysee could use some more quality content for sure, but they at least operate in such a way that I'm not convinced they're only for one type of content and some of the creators I watch in Linux/technology space have somewhat of a presence there.
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bitL 5y ago

Can you self-host it like PeerTube?

2Gkashmiri 5y ago
there is something called tilvids.com that hosts educational as well as edutainment content. a good fit for the linuxexperiment. either that or do like videos.lukesmith.xyz and build your own. It is really not difficult or does not cost a fortune