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Apple has been stagnant since Steve Jobs died. His momentum keeps the company moving forward, but they haven't had a fresh idea since he passed.

sxcurry 7y ago
Except for AirPods, Apple Watch, .....
- liberte82 7y ago
  Both of which have had so-so reception. Certainly nothing like Jobs' industry-disruptive innovations.
  - romanovcode 7y ago
    iPods are huge success
  - rat9988 7y ago
    How many times did steve jobs disrupt the industry?
    - liberte82 7y ago
      iPod iPhone no disk drive UNIX-based OS goes mainstream first mainstream OS with a GUI iMac - making PC's 'friendly' iTunes - made it cool to pay for music again To name a few.
      - justicezyx 7y ago
        Anything except first two is not that impressive... And iPhone is built on top of years of speculation and foundational change in material and wireless infrastructure. But the point is that apple now no longer needs to grow like jobs era. And for all good will, I see no chance for jobs to pull out new things equally big as iPhone anyway. But some can believe that regardless.
      - buzzerbetrayed 7y ago
        I'm not sure how "no disk drive" disrupted the industry more than Airpods and Apple Watch.
        dzader 7y ago
        then maybe don't comment here?
      - mffnbs 7y ago
        > UNIX-based OS goes mainstream What are you crediting Jobs with? What does this mean? It seems like your list fell apart after the first 3 concrete things you listed, the rest are just random things you like about Apple.
        musicale 7y ago
        Jobs founded NeXT, which created a desktop UNIX OS based on mach/BSD. Most importantly, NeXTSTEP had a nice GUI framework built on Objective-C. When Jobs returned, NeXT merged with Apple, and Apple gained ownership of NeXTSTEP/OpenStep, evolving it into Rhapsody and OS X. Of course the programming and design were done by the software teams under Avie Tevanian, first at NeXT and later at Apple.
      - musicale 7y ago
        Mainstreaming desktop (and laptop) UNIX was a kind of amazing achievement (and a sort of strange side-effect of Jobs returning to Apple with NeXT in tow.) Though original Mac, LaserWriter, and iPad are also big on my list.
      - deleted 7y ago
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  - tashoecraft 7y ago
    Pretty sure airpods have been one of Apple's most successful and top reviewed product. Sure their was negative press before they were released, but everything I see now states how good they are and everyone one I talk to loves them.
- jes5199 7y ago
  nobody wants those. AirPods are expensive, ugly earbuds that you have to recharge for some reason, and the watch is just a way for your phone to distract you more frequently.
  - applecrazy 7y ago
    This seems more like an individual opinion rather than market data. The Apple Watch is the world's most popular watch. AirPods have exploded in popularity among youth as a status symbol. Both are selling relatively well, even if you may think they're inferior products.
    - jes5199 7y ago
      “most popular watch” is not really a high bar, is it?
      - applecrazy 7y ago
        5-7 million units sold per quarter and 36% market share in the smartwatch category[1] isn't enough for you? [1]: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/02/apple-watch-1q19-market-share-counterpoint/ https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/02/apple-watch-1q19-market...
  - jefft255 7y ago
    Nobody? I see AirPods everywhere. I’m not aware of the actual sales numbers but I’m sure that they’re among the best selling >100$ headphones. I think that you are underestimating the popularity and appeal of wireless headphones. I like my wired seinheiser pair at the office but while commuting, running or walking wireless is nice.
  - kgwgk 7y ago
    If nobody wants them, how can Apple sell millions of units every month?
  - onemoresoop 7y ago
    I'm also part of the nobody group, never buy the latest because I am frugal with my earnings. But I've noticed lots and lots of people with AirPods, latest Iphones, etc. I think you're underestimating the status value that Apple has managed to create for themselves. A large number of people view Apple as a status symbol.
- threeseed 7y ago
  Services. In Job's era that revenue was almost 0%. Now it's 21%.
nodesocket 7y ago
Except for the fact the stock is up 270% since his death not accounting for any dividends.
- deleted 7y ago
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sxcurry 7y ago

Except for AirPods, Apple Watch, .....

liberte82 7y ago
Both of which have had so-so reception. Certainly nothing like Jobs' industry-disruptive innovations.
- romanovcode 7y ago
  iPods are huge success
- rat9988 7y ago
  How many times did steve jobs disrupt the industry?
  - liberte82 7y ago
    iPod iPhone no disk drive UNIX-based OS goes mainstream first mainstream OS with a GUI iMac - making PC's 'friendly' iTunes - made it cool to pay for music again To name a few.
    - justicezyx 7y ago
      Anything except first two is not that impressive... And iPhone is built on top of years of speculation and foundational change in material and wireless infrastructure. But the point is that apple now no longer needs to grow like jobs era. And for all good will, I see no chance for jobs to pull out new things equally big as iPhone anyway. But some can believe that regardless.
    - buzzerbetrayed 7y ago
      I'm not sure how "no disk drive" disrupted the industry more than Airpods and Apple Watch.
      - dzader 7y ago
        then maybe don't comment here?
    - mffnbs 7y ago
      > UNIX-based OS goes mainstream What are you crediting Jobs with? What does this mean? It seems like your list fell apart after the first 3 concrete things you listed, the rest are just random things you like about Apple.
      - musicale 7y ago
        Jobs founded NeXT, which created a desktop UNIX OS based on mach/BSD. Most importantly, NeXTSTEP had a nice GUI framework built on Objective-C. When Jobs returned, NeXT merged with Apple, and Apple gained ownership of NeXTSTEP/OpenStep, evolving it into Rhapsody and OS X. Of course the programming and design were done by the software teams under Avie Tevanian, first at NeXT and later at Apple.
    - musicale 7y ago
      Mainstreaming desktop (and laptop) UNIX was a kind of amazing achievement (and a sort of strange side-effect of Jobs returning to Apple with NeXT in tow.) Though original Mac, LaserWriter, and iPad are also big on my list.
    - deleted 7y ago
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- tashoecraft 7y ago
  Pretty sure airpods have been one of Apple's most successful and top reviewed product. Sure their was negative press before they were released, but everything I see now states how good they are and everyone one I talk to loves them.
jes5199 7y ago
nobody wants those. AirPods are expensive, ugly earbuds that you have to recharge for some reason, and the watch is just a way for your phone to distract you more frequently.
- applecrazy 7y ago
  This seems more like an individual opinion rather than market data. The Apple Watch is the world's most popular watch. AirPods have exploded in popularity among youth as a status symbol. Both are selling relatively well, even if you may think they're inferior products.
  - jes5199 7y ago
    “most popular watch” is not really a high bar, is it?
    - applecrazy 7y ago
      5-7 million units sold per quarter and 36% market share in the smartwatch category[1] isn't enough for you? [1]: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/02/apple-watch-1q19-market-share-counterpoint/ https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/02/apple-watch-1q19-market...
- jefft255 7y ago
  Nobody? I see AirPods everywhere. I’m not aware of the actual sales numbers but I’m sure that they’re among the best selling >100$ headphones. I think that you are underestimating the popularity and appeal of wireless headphones. I like my wired seinheiser pair at the office but while commuting, running or walking wireless is nice.
- kgwgk 7y ago
  If nobody wants them, how can Apple sell millions of units every month?
- onemoresoop 7y ago
  I'm also part of the nobody group, never buy the latest because I am frugal with my earnings. But I've noticed lots and lots of people with AirPods, latest Iphones, etc. I think you're underestimating the status value that Apple has managed to create for themselves. A large number of people view Apple as a status symbol.
threeseed 7y ago
Services. In Job's era that revenue was almost 0%. Now it's 21%.

nodesocket 7y ago

Except for the fact the stock is up 270% since his death not accounting for any dividends.

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