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timeeater
6y ago
CDC at the moment says 12% increase compared to the average of the last three years. Absolute number of deaths have been rising from year to year, sometimes with jumps of 90k. Sure Covid has an impact, but whether it is dramatic is another
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timeeater
6y ago
It's relevant to your claim that deaths from other diseases have been reduced because of the anti-covid measures.
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6y ago
Or they are all counted as Covid. If you go to the physician with a respiratory disease, they will test for Covid first. Will they still test for the flu? What about people who get to the hospital because of the flu and get infected with Co
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timeeater
6y ago
Better, but they should also adjust for increase in population sizes.
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timeeater
6y ago
Classic to have the y-axis not start at 0 to make a curve look more dramatic. According to the CDC, there seem to be about 12% more deaths than the average of the last three years, or about 300K. Number of deaths has been rising every year,
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timeeater
6y ago
Death by old age does not exist, it is just the older you get, the more likely it is that some disease or other will push you over. Only Covid somehow doesn't count. It's OK to die of an heart attack when you are over 80, but not
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6y ago
7500 deaths per day are average for the US. 9/11 caused 3000 deaths. So the US will probably exceed 9/11 deaths forever, unless population size is drastically reduced somehow.
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6y ago
Same type of claim, that is not supported by data. If you have the data, please provide it. In the same vein, you could assume Democrats are more at risk because they put too much faith in masks, thereby entering more risky situations. Not
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6y ago
It's not just a matter of parsing lots of information, you also have to collect the information, and interpret it correctly. Maybe one day in the future, a real AI will be able to do better than markets (by what metric, though). But no
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6y ago
"You can direct to HUMANITY to whatever ends" - then why don't we have world peace and end of hunger yet?
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6y ago
Those were different incidents, iirc he proposed shutting down travel when news about Covid came from China. The other "closing of the borders" is about immigration laws. I'm not from the US, but I never understood the anti-T
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6y ago
But weren't those lies perpetuated by mainstream media? Where, if not YouTube, would you find the counter narratives? And wouldn't people who believe the MSM not then considered the YouTube debunking to be "lies" and cal
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6y ago
It's not irrelevant, as the discussion is about alleged effects of free speech on YouTube in the present time.
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6y ago
If water is free, it gets squandered.
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timeeater
6y ago
"Good Goverance" - so, Socialism? Markets work better.
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6y ago
Your assumption that the fear does no harm is wrong.
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6y ago
"But they do belong together, don't they? I mean, they are all under attack by facts-denying militant groups fueled by anti-intellectual propaganda." No, that is just a strategy of defamation that you fell for. Basically the
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"I have a belief system that's coherent and arrived at through my personal experience" Other people also have coherent belief systems they arrived at through their personal experience, that contradict yours.
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6y ago
I said "we would all live in totalitarian states", and I also doubt your totalitarian state was created by YouTube propaganda. I'm more worried about the censorship leading to totalitarian states than extremist YouTube channe
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6y ago
The 60% number sounds big, but how many people actually joined groups with extremist content? Without that context, the 60% doesn't say much. It also doesn't say why people joined those groups. Maybe they are just curious to see w
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6y ago
I think the vaccine story has specific aspects for why it spread, not simply YouTube exposure. It provides good anecdotes, because many people get vaccinated and many people get randomly sick. So almost everybody knows an anecdote from some
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6y ago
It's not that there are no excess deaths in the US, the question is nevertheless if the scale is really so outrageous. And as I said, you have to look at the next year as well. It is not simply "Covid is fiction" vs "Cov
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"antivaxing, antimask, covid-is-a-lie conspiracies" You are mixing things together that don't belong together. Covid is very new and scientific discussion is still ongoing. There is no consensus. Anti-vaxxers are about tried
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So now you are in favor of censoring things? I don't think the likes of YouTube are very typical for totalitarian states. The propaganda by totalitarian states is an entirely different beasts, it reaches into all walks of life.
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Surely it does not automatically work, or we would all live in totalitarian states already.
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So you are saying Trump should have closed the borders, a proposal he was heavily attacked for? Anyway, it is more difficult for non-island countries and bigger countries with more global ties.
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I specifically added that I haven't validated the numbers, how is that "confirmation bias". I googled merely for the numbers of deaths in previous years. Do you know the numbers, and are the numbers in the article wrong? Or a
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What do you mean by "undeniable steep gradient towards extremism" - it was undeniable that more people were becoming extremists via YouTube? I thought that is what we are discussing? Whether YouTube algorithm tries to show you ext
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Wouldn't traders create their own rules for trading? (As presumably they have also done in the past)? I think most financial constructs were created by traders, not governments. Financial constructs are basically standard contracts.
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6y ago
Well the industry would have to make a one-time investment to determine the formula.
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