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"I have a belief system that's coherent and arrived at through my personal experience" Other people also have coherent belief systems they arrived at through t

"I have a belief system that's coherent and arrived at through my personal experience" Other people also have coherent belief systems they arrived at through their personal experience, that contradict yours.

Applejinx 6y ago
Never said I was automatically right, timeeater. All belief systems are coherent to the believer. They're tested by reality. It seems to be that a lot of the people who say 'orange man bad' and think that's the heart of my position, are currently dying of COVID or giving it to others. And that is their experience, though a lot of those same people are sticking with their belief systems UNTO death, not being shaken from them by their experience. I will keep an eye out for when things in my belief system seem to be not lining up with reality. I wish those 'other people' would do likewise, but I think I'm better at it.
- timeeater 6y ago
  If you believe only Trump fans get Covid19, you are sorely mistaken. Sorry, I can't take you serious, you seem to live fully in the conspiracy theories of "your" side.
  - croon 6y ago
    You're again misrepresenting their statements. They aren't saying that only Trump fans get covid, but that an oversized portion of Trump fans get covid due to fictional ideas about the virus.
    - timeeater 6y ago
      Same type of claim, that is not supported by data. If you have the data, please provide it. In the same vein, you could assume Democrats are more at risk because they put too much faith in masks, thereby entering more risky situations. Not saying that's the case. The point is, your expectation of who gets infected is merely your partisan belief, not anything rooted in evidence.
      - croon 6y ago
        https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3722299 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3722299
        newen 6y ago
        25 million people participated in the BLM protests this summer... This paper then goes and picks on Trump supporters.
        croon 6y ago
        BLM has a purpose, and was despite of covid. Trump rallies are entirely pointless, and everyone there makes a statement of not wearing masks.
        newen 6y ago
        If you look at it from a neutral point of view, you’re making a very politically biased statement.
        croon 6y ago
        No. You don't have to agree with the purpose, but my statement is factual.
        newen 6y ago
        Give me a break...that's obviously your opinion. First of all, the disease doesn't care about your political opinion; it will spread in protests whether you are a crusader or an infidel. So it doesn't matter what you are protesting about; what matters is disease spread. Now regarding BLM's purpose, which was police violence presumably. Police kill around 1000 Americans a year. Not an insignificant number but pales in comparison to the pandemic. Trump rally, pointless, entirely your biased viewpoint. They were protesting the lockdown, which has crippled the economy, shut down a massive number of small businesses, made tons of people lose their jobs, and come January, will evict tons of people. Their protests had a point, but you're obviously misrepresenting them to fit your biases. So no, your statements were not factual.

Applejinx 6y ago

Never said I was automatically right, timeeater. All belief systems are coherent to the believer. They're tested by reality. It seems to be that a lot of the people who say 'orange man bad' and think that's the heart of my position, are currently dying of COVID or giving it to others. And that is their experience, though a lot of those same people are sticking with their belief systems UNTO death, not being shaken from them by their experience. I will keep an eye out for when things in my belief system seem to be not lining up with reality. I wish those 'other people' would do likewise, but I think I'm better at it.

timeeater 6y ago
If you believe only Trump fans get Covid19, you are sorely mistaken. Sorry, I can't take you serious, you seem to live fully in the conspiracy theories of "your" side.
- croon 6y ago
  You're again misrepresenting their statements. They aren't saying that only Trump fans get covid, but that an oversized portion of Trump fans get covid due to fictional ideas about the virus.
  - timeeater 6y ago
    Same type of claim, that is not supported by data. If you have the data, please provide it. In the same vein, you could assume Democrats are more at risk because they put too much faith in masks, thereby entering more risky situations. Not saying that's the case. The point is, your expectation of who gets infected is merely your partisan belief, not anything rooted in evidence.
    - croon 6y ago
      https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3722299 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3722299
      - newen 6y ago
        25 million people participated in the BLM protests this summer... This paper then goes and picks on Trump supporters.
        croon 6y ago
        BLM has a purpose, and was despite of covid. Trump rallies are entirely pointless, and everyone there makes a statement of not wearing masks.
        newen 6y ago
        If you look at it from a neutral point of view, you’re making a very politically biased statement.
        croon 6y ago
        No. You don't have to agree with the purpose, but my statement is factual.
        newen 6y ago
        Give me a break...that's obviously your opinion. First of all, the disease doesn't care about your political opinion; it will spread in protests whether you are a crusader or an infidel. So it doesn't matter what you are protesting about; what matters is disease spread. Now regarding BLM's purpose, which was police violence presumably. Police kill around 1000 Americans a year. Not an insignificant number but pales in comparison to the pandemic. Trump rally, pointless, entirely your biased viewpoint. They were protesting the lockdown, which has crippled the economy, shut down a massive number of small businesses, made tons of people lose their jobs, and come January, will evict tons of people. Their protests had a point, but you're obviously misrepresenting them to fit your biases. So no, your statements were not factual.