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by throwaway1584 9y ago
The difference is that I believe in a sense of justice and recourse, and that is something social justice warriors do not believe in for their actions. I also believe that evidence can prove me wrong, which is clearly outside the realm of s
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
> Do you think HN as it is now is the place to constructively have these discussions? I see your point about the fitness of a platform for challenging the prevailing viewpoints in Silicon Valley, and for making sure that people can devel
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
There is a lot of smoke for there to be no fire. However, who knows. Personally I have seen the same behavior where I work so I am not surprised if this is all true.
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
There are screenshots in the suits of concrete messages from people claiming they do each of these actions. At this point the question seems mostly to be about if this is systematic or just individual actions.
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
Why? Social justice actions that should be firable offenses that have been brought to light are; - blacklists of workers that have the wrong viewpoint - explicit race and gender discrimination - using power to enforce that no one can expres
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
We as a society agree to state sanctioned consequences that are similar to actions unacceptable to individuals. The difference is that there need to be a sense of justice and recourse, which social justice warriors don’t think should apply
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
That’s very reasonable. Maybe there are new functionality that can be implemented to at least bring back to the frontpage flagged articles of interest to the majority? I think there needs to be a punishment function for ideologically motiva
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
Yes, according to my Iranian colleagues.
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
HN policy states that topics should be relevant to tech and startups. This topic in particular clearly is and also garnered a lot of interest. Arguably a majority might actually be interested in discussing this topic as they might be percei
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
You can’t both flag an article on a topic off the frontpage so few in the audience see it and get to claim that another article on the topic is a dupe for the audience.
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
Even if that is correct it does not make it a just way of fighting for your cause. Voting for articles on the front-page of HN is equivalent to a vote in a democracy. If you removed the opposing party candidate from the ballot you might rea
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
> The irony in all this hoopla is that literally every engineer who has been so bad that I wondered how the heck they made it past the interview stage has been......drumroll ... white or asian male. I work with a lot of engineers of all
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
If you believe in reason I suggest reading the Quilette [1] and if you have an academic background you can join the Heterodox Academy [2]. [1] http://quillette.com [2] https://heterodoxacademy.org
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
So what you are saying is that you are the kind of person that would have send people to the Gulag for having a different viewpoint. Good job. I am sure this feels pleasant as long as your viewpoint is in power. Tyrannies rarely stay that w
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
Unfortunately no. However, I do not personally use reddit etc. I think we need to do everything we can to highlight injustices in the power applied to force only one viewpoint to be heard. In addition to this social justice warriors need to
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
At this point I expect actions like this from people holding the prevailing viewpoints in Silicon Valley whenever someone with a different viewpoint dare speak.
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
> one thign that annoys me about the media scrutinizing tech companies like this, is that the MEDIA themselves is one of the most masogogynistic cultures out there NY Times, Huffington Post and many other outlets have a social justice ag
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
You are correct that if you work in tech create a throw-away account to discuss anything critical of the prevailing viewpoints. Many holding the prevailing viewpoints are tyrannical and have shown themselves willing to destroy the lives of
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
Almost anyone working in tech has seen race and gender discrimination in favor of women and minorities at this point. I have personally experienced it. If we were to apply affirmative action then class would be a better differentiator than
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
Personally I wanted to discuss the article yesterday, but it was moved off the front-page too fast despite high interest. It is very common on HN for articles that does not agree with or points out problems in the prevailing viewpoint to be
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
You are entirely correct that despite immigrants being the largest source of diversity in tech, all diversity and inclusion programs in tech misclassify immigrants into US demographic categories from the EEO-1 Instruction Booklet [2] that u
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
From personal experience after having talked to several colleagues about this in private, all of whom feel this is wrong, the simple reason for why people don't speak or engage in open discourse is fear. And after having seen what happ
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
Anecdotally I only knew two Trump voters in the Bay Area. One is Chinese and the other Indian. Polling was not great in the last election, maybe because pollsters can mainly call people with landlines [1] which excludes large pools of peopl
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
A pretty straightforward explanation is that ⅔ [1] of the tech workers in Silicon Valley are immigrants. Silicon Valley recruits outliers from around the world, and it doesn't make sense to apply US demographics to an industry that rec
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
It also doesn't make sense to apply US demographics to an industry where ⅔ [1] of the workers are immigrants. Silicon Valley recruits outliers from around the world. Immigrants are misclassified into US demographic categories from the
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
The EEO-1 Instruction Booklet [1] that underpins all diversity and inclusion programs do not have an 'other' category, but it has a 'Decline to State'. The EEO-1 booklet states that if a person decline to state their rac
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by throwaway1584 9y ago
Most of these are also misclassified as white and asian Americans. ⅔ [1] of Silicon Valley tech workers are immigrants that risk discrimination due to being misclassified into US demographic categories from the EEO-1 Instruction Booklet [2]