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At this point I expect actions like this from people holding the prevailing viewpoints in Silicon Valley whenever someone with a different viewpoint dare speak.
by throwaway1584 9y ago
At this point I expect actions like this from people holding the prevailing viewpoints in Silicon Valley whenever someone with a different viewpoint dare speak.
- sol_remmy 9y agoDo you know of an uncensored forum that is better for discussing these issues? Is Slashdot better?
- throwaway1584 9y agoUnfortunately no. However, I do not personally use reddit etc. I think we need to do everything we can to highlight injustices in the power applied to force only one viewpoint to be heard. In addition to this social justice warriors need to receive negative social and life repercussions for their tyrannical actions.
- 13years 9y ago> In addition to this social justice warriors need to receive negative social and life repercussions for their tyrannical actions. You realize this is exactly a description of 'social justice' and it is exactly this that is the problem
- throwaway1584 9y agoWe as a society agree to state sanctioned consequences that are similar to actions unacceptable to individuals. The difference is that there need to be a sense of justice and recourse, which social justice warriors don’t think should apply to their actions. Acting like a social justice warrior in the workplace should for instance be a firable offence, and things like doxxing should receive severe punishment.
- to3m 9y agoThis is now officially beyond parody.
- throwaway1584 9y agoWhy? Social justice actions that should be firable offenses that have been brought to light are; - blacklists of workers that have the wrong viewpoint - explicit race and gender discrimination - using power to enforce that no one can express an opposing viewpoint All actions that hurt those that are affected in material way.
- dragonwriter 9y agoAccusations in a lawsuit, even when they happen to support your preconceived biases, aren't the same thing as proof. Yes, the complaining parties in various lawsuits have levelled accusations of that (or, on the last case, substantially narrower accusations of which that description appears to be a somewhat hyperbolic generalization.) But anyone who can afford a court filing fee can put any accusation they want in a lawsuit.
- throwaway1584 9y agoThere are screenshots in the suits of concrete messages from people claiming they do each of these actions. At this point the question seems mostly to be about if this is systematic or just individual actions.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> There are screenshots in the suits of concrete messages from people claiming they do each of these actions Screenshots, without evidence of provenance, of anyone saying anything are trivial to create; they aren't evidence just part of the accusations.
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- hncensorship 9y agoVoat is the least censored forum I know of, but has the unfortunate problems of the communities it's become famous for. That being said, perhaps that should start being a point in its favor from how much aggressively the "HN immune response" seems to be shutting down any attempts to call out the blatant whitewashing here. After watching how aggressively my comments were marked dead, I turned on "Showdead" and came to the realization that the dead comments were far often more substantial than those allowed to persist; at the very least it may be worth others doing the same if they want to keep trying to utilize this platform.
- throwaway1584 9y agoIf you believe in reason I suggest reading the Quilette [1] and if you have an academic background you can join the Heterodox Academy [2]. [1] http://quillette.com http://quillette.com [2] https://heterodoxacademy.org https://heterodoxacademy.org
- PKop 9y agoGab.ai at the moment is the least censored social network to discuss this issue.