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recoiledsnake
13y ago
And I don't work for Microsoft, never worked for them or any affiliates nor own their stock or ever owned it and the closest that I know I was ever to any MS employee was when I was interviewing in Seattle at Amazon for a C++/Linux position
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
This thread says otherwise. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714681
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
Wait, so Google is dropping XMPP support because Outlook.com is supporting it to allow Gtalk users to chat on Outlook.com, so in order to perpetuate the GMail/GTalk lock-in by caging the Gtalk chat users to GMail, they're dropping standards
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
Lots of posters report that the Youtube mobile site and phone apps don't show ads so I don't know what the fuss is. Also, if WP allegedly has such low adoption that Google doesnt feel the need to make an app, how much revenue can the WP app
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
I don't have an issue with them pulling it, but they did it suddenly and gave MS very less time for a workaround and increased the time only after public shaming. MS implemented CardDAV and CalDAV standards as Google wanted, and as part of
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
See this thread for more details https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5716010
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
Agreed, I also think its just overzealous fans acting on their own. By the way, Microsoft's response is stuck on the 2nd page despite getting a ton of upvotes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715889
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
Okay, I agree, Apple and Google rock and Microsoft sucks. So how is all that related to the article idea's and the OPs point about the FUD on HN about .NET dying? Is .NET dying because Apple makes more money selling iDevices than Microsoft'
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
>So, they made in a year something around what Apple makes every quarter just from iPad sales? That's the rosy sign MS's "Servers and Tools" business is doing OK? That's their server and tools revenue in a quarter, not a year. In your r
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13y ago
Thanks for the post, but have to disgree on some points. the differences aren't small, they're quite big when you realize that ranking makes a huge difference to how many people see it and how many more new votes it gets, especially if it g
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
Note that the complaint is not about lack of upvotes, it's about people going out of their way to use their flagging powers which is meant only for spam links.
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
Wow, they just had to just send an email to their instead of pleading with Google for three years for API access. Microsoft sure is stupid! Or perhaps the Xbox Youtube app was written by Google like the first line of your article says, so t
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
>If Microsoft wrote a TOS-compliant YouTube app and put it in their app store, but it was written in a way that bumped up against the quota limits, I'm sure they and Google could work out some way to grant them more quota. MS has been r
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13y ago
>You realize that if ads are required by the TOS, but you don't have the ability to include ads, that it doesn't mean it's just okay to ignore the TOS and distribute the app anyway? Microsoft developers didn't have to read and accept th
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13y ago
Windows Phone has tens of millions of users and YT is a really popular app so it would hit the quota limit real quick and get banned. https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/getting-started#quo...
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>I don't know if that's a valid extrapolation. I, for one, in all my working years have never met a Linux company that was interested in switching to .NET, but I met many that wanted it the other way around if they could only justify th
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13y ago
The flagging ability is removed if you do a lot of flagging in a very short time, like the poster who didn't like all Steve Jobs posts on front page when he passed away and flagged them all and lost his flagging ability. Microsoft related a
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13y ago
This is a regular occurrence on Microsoft related stories which don't show it in a bad light and anti-Google stories. See #26 on the front page: 26.Where Is .Net Headed? (odetocode.com) 5 points by wubbfindel 44 minutes ago | 1 comment How
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13y ago
Looks like this submission is getting flagged as well. I guess this story really isn't showing Google is good light if Google fans are in such heavy damage control mode. It looks like they have a veto on what appears on the HN front page. L
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>The issue is that the app is not displaying ads, which is against the TOS. Microsoft has responded to the takedown notice. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715889 (Edit: looks like that submission is getting flagged as well. I g
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>I haven't ported any of my own apps to Win Phone either - what's the point when nobody is using it? So Google's complaint is that "nobody" is using the Windows Phone Youtube app and that this is hurting Youtube because "nobody" is watc
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recoiledsnake
13y ago
In a number of comments on HN I get the impression that people believe Google to be a more "open" and less evil company and thus should be trusted more but here you're comparing them to other companies considered "evil" and saying it's okay
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>If you actually read the article, you'd see the issue is not dislike of WP. The issue is that Microsoft is stripping off the ads that fund Youtube and its content, in violation the YouTube ToS. It also includes a button that allows peo
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13y ago
There's an ongoing discussion in this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714639
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>That app shows Youtube videos without ads. That seems like a clear violation of Youtube's TOS and I don't blame Google for being upset about it So, for years, Google's stated reason for lack of a Youtube client was that Windows Phone d
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That's rich when just today Google sent a C&D to Microsoft to take down the Youtube Windows Phone 8 app and refuse to make one themselves. "Google demands Microsoft removes YouTube Windows Phone app, cites lack of ads " https://news.yc
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Carriers are uneasy about giving more control to Google, Apple and Microsoft. They want to keep them at bay by going with the OEMs who are much less likely to challenge them on their turf. Nokia's chief said that carriers were less keen on
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Does Google make any money by selling this or is it just Samsung? Does this mean no new Nexus phone for Google I/O? And Motorola continues to bleed a ton of money.
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Live from the Google I/O 2013 keynote
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Story seems to be getting flagged and is going down the front page. Looks like some HN folks with good karma can't stand a Microsoft story that is not super critical and bitching about them. Those stay on the front page for days. http://i.
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