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p0lychromatic
9d ago
Isn't that more predictable though, if you know that Google Play Services does shady stuff? :) Compared to, say, random Magisk modules or some random crap the OEM developed?
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
The thing is, the whole topic is not fully binary. I agree with you that having a rootable phone does increase security in certain ways. > What doesn't increase security is when bank apps that are essential to daily life start detec
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
It is not the minimum standard for computers. Why should it be for TVs?
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
Yet here we are, in this thread, discussing why LG is spying on us. While some stuff are legit issues such as ADR, people now think they are wire-tapping. Because somebody used a rooted device to show-case recording silently through their d
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
I agree on the dark patterns. And I do not claim that ACR and all the privacy violating crap bundled into modern devices is good. No, it is evil. However, just because your TV does ACR, does not immediately mean they listen 24/7 throug
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
How do you build reputation if everyone starts tells you to build reputation first? You have to start somewhere. Better makes sense to start looking at the arguments rather than the author. It also helps you train your brain. Stop trusting
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
> Many rooted devices display during boot a warning that they have been rooted. Usually, this happens after a bootloader unlock because then verified boot is disabled. You can still have a rooted device and not break verified, resulting
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
1. Ad hominem. 2. No, LG is not perfect here and their TVs are bloated as fuck and they do questionable things privacy-wise. However, that still does not mean that they listen on every conversation, as shown in the video. That nuance is imp
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
I know people here do not want to hear it, but it is a very two-sided sword. Of course root allows you to tinker with your device and make it run what you want, but: - Rooted devices make devices unpredictable. As shown in the video: How do
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
The bad idea is that by rooting, you can (of course) turn your device into a 24/7 surveillance device that sends voice and video data everywhere. That does not mean that LG does all that by default.
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
Some attacks shown on the video (like the "silent" voice recording) are initiated by the people in the video manually running those commands via SSH. This is the major issue with this video: It mixes stuff done by LG (ACR) with st
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p0lychromatic
9d ago
They still run the audio recording manually through SSH and then claim that your TV is spying on your private conversations "silently". Otherwise, they start a voice command service (clearly displayed on the screen) and then say y
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p0lychromatic
10d ago
You can see them running "nohup arecord" in the video.
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p0lychromatic
10d ago
This is because they rooted the TV. They can just start a capture, record to RAM / storage, and retrieve it later when it is reconnected to the network. Otherwise if it's disconnected, it is still hard to exfiltrate the data somew
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p0lychromatic
10d ago
But weren't most recordings manually started in the video? Either through the UI, or via the root access they have? I might be missing something here, but I did not see the TV automatically recording stuff by itself (or them showing it
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p0lychromatic
10d ago
Granted, I only watched one hour of the original video, but I get the feeling the way it is presented is a bit dishonest. A lot of the "silent listening" they show in the video is on a TV they rooted. They start recordings through