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krupan
5d ago
So? The vast majority are not CDL or rideshare drivers.
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krupan
5d ago
I don't know, people. We still really don't know how OpenAI or others are producing these results. It's all very hand wavy and trust-me-bro. How much money/time/compute have they really thrown at these problems?
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krupan
6d ago
Bread ties are good too. Sometimes they're too short, but you can twist a few together
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krupan
6d ago
Waymo (and rideshare) replace regular human drivers. No need to compare only against rideshare drivers.
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krupan
6d ago
Um, in those two examples where it was ridiculously not waymo's fault it was still absolutely the fault of a human driver. I'm struggling to imagine a significant amount of cases where it's ridiculously not the fault of any
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krupan
6d ago
What does "with no substantive human input" mean? All of the training data is human input, isn't it?
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krupan
7d ago
I feel like we're really getting off into the weeds here. I think the original question was, could they have achieved their monopoly without government help? I still think no. Their product, software, is given more protection than o
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krupan
7d ago
You put forth Microsoft as a monopoly, not necessarily a bad business.
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krupan
7d ago
So maybe it's more like poker than a slot machine? Still intermittent rewards with a lot of random chance. The nuance of the analogy isn't that important to the general idea
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krupan
7d ago
All people at least some times, absolutely yes. Isn't it awesome we built machine that does the exact same thing, but even faster and more often? /s
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krupan
7d ago
How is putting personal liberty above all else a love of corporations? If a corporation is furthering personal liberty then sure, I'll love them. If they aren't then I won't give them my time/money/attention. Why
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7d ago
How hard would it be for you to look up whether Apple does any government lobbying, or if there are any laws, regulations, or tax codes that (whether intentionally or not) give Apple an advantage over a start up that wants to compete with t
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7d ago
Libertarianism is far more than just an economic system and it's too bad it went down that narrow piece of it. I don't understand your reference about coercing Ceasar but a major tenent of Libertarianism is not coercering anyone t
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7d ago
Hey, I was working hard to not make it a monopoly! Lol! All those different local police forces and each level of the hierarchy are different corporations. But seriously, if we could achieve a peaceful society without giving anyone permiss
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krupan
7d ago
You one line lot shots aren't doing anything useful here. Maybe sit the rest of this out
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7d ago
No libertarian is saying "corporations good!" Oh my gosh, the misunderstanding is huge. Go do some actual research about an idea before blindly arguing against it. Libertarianism is all about individuals and personal property
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krupan
7d ago
Is that like, inverse One True Scotsman?
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8d ago
Aha! Neat trick to defeat hacker news's attempt to keep us from having long unproductive conversations. Let's keep it going. Does it matter if the government purposely ordained the monopoly or stupidly made it possible by extend
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8d ago
I'm going to try and summarize. You said, essentially, "sure the US had freedom, but maybe the amount of land and resources it had is the real reason it has done so well." Walter countered with, "Taiwan is a tiny island
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8d ago
Prosperity is so much more than just GDP. But look, this discussion started with someone saying our corrupt government is bad, and then throwway120385 described something horrible and called it libertarian and I just had to correct that la
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8d ago
"The US is developed, so it’s automatically more centrally controlled than most nations." What?? Can you explain this better? The more developed a nation the more centrally controlled it is? The USSR was more developed than the
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8d ago
We're they more prosperous than Uganda? I don't know much about Uganda's history but the 21 million citizens of the USSR that Stalin murdered were as unpropserous as anyone could be. It was an incredibly uneven prosperity i
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8d ago
Ok, maybe I went too far. There are the total anarchist libertarians that don't want any form of government. Personally I'm not sure I want to go that route. So my libertarian government will need a police force of some sort.
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8d ago
Can't reply to tombert, we're too deeply nested for hacker news, but the Microsoft example is great. The government didn't have anything to do with them being a monopoly? Have you heard of copyright laws? Did you know that
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8d ago
Nothing is impossible, but it's really difficult. If some greedy entrepreneur is raking in the cash with some product or service then of course another greedy entrepreneur will see that and start competing with the first guy. The evi
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8d ago
If this isn't the complete anarchy form of libertarianism then the government can still enforce laws against air pollution. And there would be no way for a government official to make an underhanded executive branch "policy"
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8d ago
Government will not give any help to any corporation and we, the masses, will be empowered to stand up to corporations ourselves. And to be clear, when we talk about Power here we aren't talking about enforcing our will with violence
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8d ago
Yes. The fact is we have no idea what's in these models. People are afraid of mkultra-ed humans that turn into killing machines with a given trigger word, but here we've built machines that are exactly that, not even intentional
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8d ago
We in the US are so very far still from meeting the goals of libertarianism. Even farther than before with our current administration! The current US government helps big business through a combination of tax breaks, burdensome regulations
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8d ago
It is troublesome that libertarianism isn't super well defined, but no version of libertarianism has the government "doing business" with anyone. It only enforces laws, it doesn't buy and sell anything, and it certainly
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