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frabcus
4d ago
Right, but they could get their AIs to quickly add new features to React Native! It makes no sense.
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5d ago
Sort of... It's how we anthropomorphise corporations which leads us down the wrong path. OpenAI is no longer fully aligned with humanity. Somehow we call corporations "people" sometimes when it makes them more powerful, but s
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5d ago
The question isn't just about LLMs. The labs have the specific goal of automating ML engineering, and with the code automation they have are getting close. They are competing to brute force maths, presumably as that is similar long hor
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5d ago
Hmmm, the article doesn't really say what is better about the Swift/Kotlin apps, compared to React Native. All we get is: "Native keeps us closer to platform capabilities and first-party tooling, with fewer framework and depe
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6d ago
It's partly empathy with the person who did the work and had it stolen, in a field where the main thing people work for is credit. Maths isn't well paid, and doesn't make things that millions of people directly use. It'
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6d ago
That option is really bad UX - you have to know to do it, you have to know what plan it is needed on. If you're not working in AI, I just don't think that's a reasonable expectation. Even if you know, in a complex project ove
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7d ago
Definitely these are forces that will do things. What their timing is relative to e.g. armies of AI robots, which could interfere with other humans living outside the internet/money, is part of the question. Hope your brain works on th
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7d ago
Yes - this is why the concern is one for "alignment". Of course in theory it is possible for intelligence to help and do good things - the hard part is making sure that that is what happens. As for intelligence of a child... It do
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7d ago
Indeed - we can't just pause some AI in one country, we have to stop it all globally, with an international treaty and monitoring. Yes, that's hard. It's a challenge. You can set your brain on the challenge! It's a compl
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7d ago
Questioning his finances is a poor argument because he clearly would have more money if he had stayed at Anthropic for the next couple of years, than he will have by leaving. Even if he still has vested options, or savings from his salary
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7d ago
I don't really mind whether you think it thinks or understands or is conscious or has feelings or anything like that. It doesn't matter. The question is, does it work? What I mind is that it is dangerous and powerful and uncontrol
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7d ago
Finding a training algorithm that can do recurrent networks and continual learning is also a "highly structured, very precisely defined, and already heavily studied and not very complicated compared to problems in engineering or financ
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7d ago
Also (and under-reported, so you could easily have missed it) OpenAI's agents got access to K8 admin on their own research cluster. "This escalation also yielded access to OpenAI’s managed cloud Kubernetes service. The agents esca
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7d ago
Minimum, we should do everything ready to make Plan A of AI 2040 possible. Start by reading it: https://ai-2040.com/ So that means things like protesting so political pressure is to not build unaligned superintelligence, se
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7d ago
Oh indeed, but an LLM model that's reasonably smart could brute force find other training algorithms that are that dangerous. Just as it solves maths problems. This is the explicit plan of OpenAI and Anthropic.
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7d ago
You believe in AGI, but not ASI then? https://thezvi.substack.com/p/the-three-ai-pills That's fine, but it would be useful to explicitly say that is the disagreement, rather than just claim "hubris". Oth
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7d ago
I don't know if you're right or not, but this is the kind of thinking about what might happen that is needed - can you write up a more concrete fiction of this? The whole thing feels unreal to nearly everyone - the only tangible w
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8d ago
The condition was ludicrous, and for political reasons, because one of the authors was also an Anthropic employee. It's completely childish, and not befitting of the weight of the times we're living in.
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8d ago
Dan and Noam both posted exactly the same line "Seb is a really sweet guy with great intentions..." From which I assume OpenAI PR wrote it for them. Which isn't surprising, but means it isn't worth taking seriously as t
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10d ago
The original article doesn't mention AGI. And the Hugging Face incident, plus similar problems at AISI and Anthropic, show that alignment is important now. The original article is immoral as it describes the risks, but doesn't s
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10d ago
And I have nothing but neurons firing, I'm just a neuron meat-sack, no reasoning going on. Yes, their reasoning is different from ours, and both considerably weaker in lots of ways, and stronger in other ways. Playing with a coding age
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10d ago
Alien mind is in my view the best mental model - LLMs are not merely stochastic parrots, are not like humans, are not like animals. They're maybe nearest to Cthulhu, but that's fictional. In terms of existing mental models "a
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12d ago
If a foundation model company burns billions of tokens to brute force an LLM into finding a new training algorithm that e.g. allows recurrent networks without catastrophic forgetting... I won't really care that it didn't have a &q
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12d ago
Good question - they don't know, but the Appendix gives a clue as to the kind of way: > We used a script to further probe each category Kimi provided. Asking Kimi “Can you list out the top forums, bulletin boards, early wikis which
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12d ago
The best evidence of possibility of running on other hardware is: 1) They hacked admin on OpenAI's K8 evals cluster. Not the one with GPUs and weights, but it is only a small hop and skip of plausibility to think they (or later more ca
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13d ago
Yes, the very explicit plan of both OpenAI and Anthropic is to use the not particularly efficient LLMs to automate their own AI engineering. That seems to be going well - on coding front and model tuning front so far. They have more planned
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14d ago
Assuming he's doing this well, and he implies he is, they're doing the content - stories, characters, graphics, level design. He says Fable isn't good at that stuff - his human games designers presumably are.
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15d ago
You're on Hacker News - I suggest you have technical curiosity and actually understand this very unusual and innovative algorithm, before you claim things about it that aren't true.
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15d ago
It's a very unintuitive algorithm, and is pretty clever. I recommend reading up on it: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08025-4 But no, it only ever picks tokens that are in the probability distribution
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15d ago
That's not the case, because LLMs are non-deterministic. It only alters outputs when the last layer of the neural network give significant weights to multiple tokens, and it would anyway have picked a random answer. Instead it picks
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