civet_java

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by civet_java 3mo ago
Thanks for the considered response. > I think this is a "vote with your wallet" sort of situation. I agree a 100%. > is the value proposition good enough that people will put up with it? As of today, the answer is unfortunat
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by civet_java 3mo ago
Aw buddy, you seem to think I'm trying to hurt you . Furthest, thing from the truth. I think you might have had enough HN for today. Take a nap and then eat a snack if you still feel cranky. The internet and all your cloud services wi
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by civet_java 3mo ago
That's true, I am less familiar with the workings of cloud services than some are (as relevant as that may be in a discussion about a client that users run on their local machines). However, it sounds like you do understand how cloud s
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by civet_java 3mo ago
If by a "finer-toothed comb" you mean telemetry then I don't quite see it as comparable to this situation. Telemetry is disclosed in privacy policies, it can usually be opted out of and if not that, then it can be blocked by
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by civet_java 3mo ago
There are some commentors in this thread downplaying the severity of a service provider being less than transparent about exactly what their shipped tooling does on customer's machines. That the provider's business needs necessita
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by civet_java 3mo ago
Copying over my comment from elsewhere in this post: Anthopic choosing to delay their models' invevitable distillation by competitors is their prerogative. That they choose to implement it by fingerprinting my access patterns without f
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by civet_java 3mo ago
Anthopic choosing to delay their models' invevitable distillation by competitors is their prerogative. That they choose to implement it by fingerprinting my access patterns without first disclosing is where they shit the bed. It isn&#x
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I'm not sure I understand your point. What benefits does treating social/national governence as an industry bring to society? Besides the govt funds it operations through taxation in addition to debt. Your unstated assumption that
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by civet_java 3mo ago
It doesn't generate private returns but investing in your worker population definitely nets returns for the public. Also, some might say that upending the de facto copyright regime in favour of AI companies was an altruistic gift.
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by civet_java 3mo ago
Right back at ya buddy. Nothing quite like seeing a braggart humbled :)
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by civet_java 3mo ago
Well, I for one hope you are horribly wrong. And something about this train of thought aligning with just the general quality of your comments gives me hope.
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I see your comments scattered across this thread with most converging on this thesis: "The US govt will regulate away the ability of US corporations and individuals to use unsanctioned AI models." Which is a fair thesis. I've
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by civet_java 3mo ago
On the other I think asking someone for a citation to their rather strong claim isn't incorrect. Digging through unstructured HN comments isn't my idea of a good time and being sent off on a treasure hunt by fellow commentors isn&
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by civet_java 3mo ago
Why is the grievance petty?
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by civet_java 3mo ago
Well you seem to clearly be in the know. Care to share?
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I'm not sure I fully understand this "society as a dinner crowd" metaphor you're painting here - who is the govt here and what are taxes and most importantly what is the food everyone is eating? How does the wealthy payi
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I had exactly this happen to me, suffered great monetary losses and had my identity stolen. I've learnt my lesson and have moved on to 1password. At the end of it I couldn't help but reflect on my foolishness. I realised just how
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I didn't realise that one could forcibly require a competitor to disclose trade secrets. Now, INAL of course, but I would think this sort of mechanism would be quite gameable from both sides ( i) a wealthy competitor legally forcing a
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I am curious how this will play out legally. Surely UI enough isn't enough to prove that source code was plagiarised? In the event Papermark chooses to sue how will the defendant defend themselves short of presenting their own (possibl
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by civet_java 3mo ago
> There’s no reason we couldn’t decide that we want to err on the side of employing too many people. One might bring up the personal consequences bourne by surplus employees who're then laid off during the unavoidable corrective pha
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I am quite sympathetic to your position. Seeing those who manage to evade accountability consistently paying a heavy personal price was immensely satisfying. But at the same time, I don't think it resulted in any structural changes tha
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by civet_java 3mo ago
Perhaps if the rank and file at a company see personal consequence for those in the topmost posistions (salary deductions, demotions, or firing) in response to such glaring fuck ups that might even help mitigate some of these morale issues.
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by civet_java 3mo ago
In a world which already has the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI, having Chinese labs be a counter balance is decidedly better than the hypothetical where American companies had a global monopoly on LLMs. If your argument is that all present
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I think the issue is that information was expensive until the owners of capital gatekept knowledge itself. Now that information is cheap to reproduce they'd rather gatekeep the conduit to that knowledge and devalue knowledge itself rat
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by civet_java 3mo ago
So what? You're a human (I'm assuming you are) and an LLM is not. The law ought to treat humans differently.
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I am mostly economics illiterate but I understand a subsidy to be an economic concession given by the state to an entity which gives said entity a relative advantage compared to its peers. In that sense (which could very well be bogus), let
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by civet_java 3mo ago
Can you please tell my, as someone who is neither Chinese nor American, "why" I should care if a Chinese company stole from another American company (that in turn stole from everyone) to give me a cheaper service that fits my use
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by civet_java 3mo ago
> I recommend a book 'Silk Roads' by Peter Frankopan. Thank you for the recommendation! > In fact you can look at China or India - future dominant powers, and guess which of their flaws will make them fall. Are these flaws t
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by civet_java 3mo ago
I'm curious what's been your experience with Sarvam outside of Indic languages - Indian English (perhaps mixed with romanised indic verbiage) and also documents with complex layouts (figures, tables, etc). I've been quite cur
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by civet_java 3mo ago
> And the Chinese models rip IP just like everyone else before them. The difference is the Chinese models return to the same system that they feed from (indirectly); people get access to model weights even if the entire model isn't

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