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_osud
6mo ago
You forgot about the Nordic countries.
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_osud
6mo ago
>It was not rude but a reasonable assumption. Let's revisit what we discussed: Yeah, variations of "did you even read the link" are rude. Yours was perhaps particularly aggressive. >But in the link you could clearly see
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_osud
6mo ago
What you're missing is the erosion of the ability of the executing states to say things like "hey this is sketchy, we think this crime might not have happened", "hey the police department in this particular city is notor
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_osud
6mo ago
Oh great, I might have to click "New Identity" in Tor Browser.
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_osud
6mo ago
ECHR decisions are (supposed to be) legally binding. If they're not obeyed, that's not a good look for rule of law in Europe. ECHR decisions are certainly not mere recommendations. >It can recommend changes to the national law,
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_osud
6mo ago
>Sorry, but you should really read the links: That's rather rude of you, I did in fact read the entire text of the link. I hate citing wikipedia, but if you'll skip forward a few lines, you'll find this nugget: "On 12
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_osud
6mo ago
Are you sure "the press" doesn't just refer to physical printing presses there?
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_osud
6mo ago
>Generally speaking, I trust EU countries criminal systems more then USA one. USA one is too procedure oriented - like for example with this rule. Those procedures are written in blood
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_osud
6mo ago
EU is not a single uniform blob. There are neighbourhoods where you have to worry about being shot, and there are neighbourhoods where people leave their keys inside their cars. So, with the police? YMMV.
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_osud
6mo ago
"Subject to review" means little more than "is the form filled correctly?", it certainly does not mean second-guessing by the courts in the executing state. Like, yeah, your EIO will be rejected if you don't tick an
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_osud
6mo ago
>EIOs are subject to a dual criminality requirement Dual criminality requirement only applies to non-Annex D crimes. Which is... not many crimes. You seem awfully confident for someone so ill-informed. >And of course, we all know this
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_osud
6mo ago
Depends on how you interpret the ECHR. Does it allow blocking half the internet during football games? It almost certainly does not: https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/fre#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-115705%... AFAIU this is common becau
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_osud
6mo ago
>The wiki article you've linked ("List of killings by law enforcement officers in Germany") sums to 552 people over the last 100 years I think we can probably agree that this number is not very accurate.
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6mo ago
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE...
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6mo ago
Germany agreed to extradite Puigdemont, Spain did not want him. Perhaps because they wouldn't have been able to prosecute him for rebellion? Rebellion is not one of the EAW listed offenses, so it would require German approval. Same is
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_osud
6mo ago
Which would be perfectly fine if your local jurisdiction could still properly review those foreign requests.
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_osud
6mo ago
Oh no, that's totally up to you. If you're happy with the courts in your country not being able to review the requests sent from Hungary, that's cool. Without transparent judicial review, how could we even know if the cases a
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_osud
6mo ago
Having been personally touched by this, I see this as an entirely practical and not ideological issue. It's harder for me to worry about the NSA than people who have already negatively impacted me in the past.
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_osud
6mo ago
>What you are claiming about European cops is also not uniformly true. A German police officer cannot "just" self-issue a search warrant. Yes. The more worrying situation is that Hungary can just decide that their police office
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6mo ago
This is the best I can give you off the top of my head, but look at which countries are the most active in eurojust :) https://www.eurojust.europa.eu/ar2020/data-annex An LLM can probably find some better links though.
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_osud
6mo ago
>The comment does not exist in a vacuum. It exists in a thread where the topic is, eminently, migrating away from US services to EU ones. Even then, there's no interesting conversation to be had unless we pretend it does.
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6mo ago
>If you think some policeman in a rural Frech village is a bigger threat to your freedom than NSA or other 3-letter agencies from the USA, we can all see who is mistaken in evaluating threats. Just like the random mugger on the streets o
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_osud
6mo ago
This is simply not correct. Very few "cops" in the US can go to any kind of secret courts. Also, what you're describing is still infinitely better than the European system! The cops get to issue the warrants themselves.
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_osud
6mo ago
Internal combustion engine? Hydrocarbons, I guess.
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You can look at past ECHR decisions for countless cases of abuse by various national governments. You can look at the history of EAW related litigation also, it'll probably prove most informative. Executing states used to constantly de
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6mo ago
Yeah, it's really bizarre how this has to be turned into a competition. We have stupid problems in the EU that don't exist in the US and vice-versa. The way this particular part of our system works is downright horrifying, but it&
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>If you're trying to say the eu isn't a saint either, sure. I'm not trying to say anything about anyone else besides the EU. Therefore I'm certainly not trying to compare EU to anyone else. I am an European pointing
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Hungary can send an EIO to France or Germany, and the consistent trend has been to reduce the ability of executing states to review these requests.
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6mo ago
Yeah, way to not read the thread. I'll repeat: EIO
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6mo ago
Want a particularly egregious example? Here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:62... Police in many EU countries was systematically searching suspects phones without mandatory due proc
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