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Getting Hired in Tech
(blog.careerfoundry.com)
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RosieA
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RosieA
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> But I am saying these types of courses cannot possibility teach you enough to truly know what you're doing, and I as a hiring manager would not consider hiring someone with no other experience than your organization's 3 mont
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RosieA
12y ago
I guess I heard talk about SWEBOK, but honestly didn't have it in a context that lead me to compare it to guilds and unions like that. I DO like the idea of "coding malpractice" law suits though. ;-P
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Well I appreciate your investigation into the entire article and associated content, that's awesome. Your dedication to the discussion is also key here because again, its not that I'm disagreeing with you in principle, but I think
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If we're going for worldly examples to coding dangers: what happens when you're mechanic misses a screw when replacing your brake pads? Firstly, if your a biz doing transactions, you better damn well be insured, just like your car
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RosieA
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I think if we're talking about someone coding portfolio websites and ecommerce shops using validated API's, we're not talking rocket science but we are talking the basis of a career. I have a hard time believing that wordpres
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> You're selling people something they can "sell" to others (marketable skills). Of course we are, but that's part of any career motivation so I'm not sure I see this as criticism. "I went to university to l
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You just described a dream I had 2 weeks ago... I need to stop watching House. :-p
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12y ago
Hahaha, I see your point. But casually designing something that endangers people's lives really isn't much of a comparison. yes, you can absolutely argue that developing the next piece of medical software for defibrillators is of
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Well you nailed it pretty much on the head. UK is already placing mandates that begin enforcement next year that state secondary schools must supply a rudimentary coding education to all students. Other EU countries are soon to follow, and
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This is a crazy interesting concept. In part because I just never considered it before, but also because its kind of a midway: Let the elitists feel elite and set the standards, and the rebels and riff-raff fight amongst themselves for stat
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12y ago
Our operating theory right now is that the best (and most useful) evaluator of developer talent (particularly new developers) is the projects they did for themselves. Or their solutions and learning through a single-dev job. Thoughts?
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100% behind you on this!
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RosieA
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Your profile name is awesome. The end.
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Its an article headline, so absolutely intended to be click-happy and instigate two things: 1 - interest from as many people as possible 2 - discussions and disagreements like this! To be fair, this isn't a sales pitch but a guest post
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I think that mentality could end up being the death of many companies. Though for certain business models the "slave" is preferable to any alternative. The great leaders of the coming decade though are going to be people-centric,
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Edit: Just realized I commented twice to this thread, but I like this response (my second one) better so I'll leave it! We take this approach in our company, but its a risky cultural move for a startup who needs to progress fast, and a
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We got KILLED by traffic today, sorry about that!
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Really? I feel like most people I know who were developers before the bust are either millionaires or still rocking. A few moves on when the bubble blew out, I even lived in an apartment in SF of a failed 2 man company during that time peri
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I can totally agree with you, accept that I would say that for the future to be brighter, to be more filled with highly qualified talent, you need to increase the pool of potentials. That means more education sources and building interest a
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Do you know off hand which ones really do? I'm not sure I've seen evidence of it apart from sort of a brief introduction to theory...?
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Hey! This is awesome! Will you be publishing your results!?! Would love to see the data!
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Nothing automatically provides the job. We're talking about a process hidden behind a click-happy headline. A huge part of the comments in this feed have been discussing the challenge of teaching bootcamp students what the actual caree
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I honestly never thought of it this way (your last sentence). But yes, to your first point many of our students are CS grads who realized they wanted to work as developers but didn't know how to code... They might start with a stronger
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I couldn't disagree more! I know great, long time and successful web developers who have never studied maths and CS! I think this really depends on your goals, and the complexity of what you hope to be building. If you want to be at th
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But did he WANT to code that himself? Or was it really a job for you? I actually agree, but as a business of course you go where the interest market is most stable. If nothing else than for the sake of your investor's heart-rate. ;-) J
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Yes! I guess the only real difference there is that both those skills directly endanger other people! :-p
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Totally agree with this. Reaching the top level of anything takes time and dedication, but there is huge value to having a rudimentary understanding of code regardless of your professional focus. Code is slowly becoming a mandatory part of
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This is an awesome comment. Is there documentation on the IMB model you describe? I'd love to see data on this!
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Our CTO was a project manager for 8 years. Picked up web development 2 years ago and now runs a major tech startup... anything is possible. He had a traditional engineering education, but CS has nothing to do with it. You might learn the fu
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