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Pyramus
5y ago
Not sure which "media" you got this from, myocarditis cases were first reported in young athletes with Covid, then army personnel that was vaccinated, if I remember correctly. The absolute risk is very small though, a lot smaller
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5y ago
What do you even mean? National vaccination regulations reflect the myocarditis/pericarditis risk since half a year already. E.g. Germany doesn't vaccinate under 30s with Moderna etc.
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Let me re-iterate my point, because I see a number of commentators here making this logical mistake. When scientist A shows a result, and scientist B can't reproduce it, it does not mean the result is wrong. Of course the result coul
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> If you can't reproduce it, it's not science. Let me throw a tiny wrench into your logical reasoning: I can't reproduce most results, does it mean most results are not science? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absen
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5y ago
Your argument goes like this: Somebody who is incredibly successful, a genius in many ways and very popular, can't be also a lier and psychopath. That's a logical fallacy. In fact, the two are positively correlated (and there is a
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5y ago
You underestimate the power of a false balance, and in a way, Elon Musk. When searching about "whistleblowing tesla" (or "whistle blowing tesla"!) there should be zero stories about the Tesla whistle. You turn facts that
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5y ago
Roughly 10 % more people doubly vaccinated (78 vs 71 per hundred) is barely?
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Admittedly, it's not a great example, but maybe it can facilitate understanding a bit? Why do we take away the right to drive a car (free movement) from those who are intoxicated? All that banning of drunk driving does is it slightly d
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> The right answers The right answers, but for the wrong question ;) Not disagreeing with you, but parent was asking why is Germany so bad relative to their European peers.
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> the people who are forced to take the vaccination without their consent and in violation of their conscience. Your imagination got the better of you here - nobody will be forced to vaccinate, especially not without their consent. Simil
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Because unfortunately the current generation of vaccines doesn't completely stop the spread - they certainly slow the spread in the weeks after the second shot, but then antibodies start to wane over the next months (which is why boost
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> Why do 30% of people refuse to get vaccinated? (here in Aotearoa it is 5%). Something is happening, people are getting left behind, in vast numbers. It's an interesting question and there is lots of debate in Germany at the moment
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5y ago
> countries have reached the point where the majority of Covid patients in their ICUs are vaccinated at well below 100% vaccination. Which countries are you talking about? It's certainly not the case for Germany, and I don't kn
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5y ago
How many people is "extremely large" in your opinion? And who? Or to put it another way: Would you be okay to go, while we keep everything open? How about your parent, or grand-parent?
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That's a logical fallacy - just because Google lost money in the past doesn't mean they want to lose money in the future. We don't know what Google's utility function was in the past, and certainly can't extrapolate
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I absolutely agree with you - we don't live in a black and white world, and black and white measures rarely work in practice. Should Google de-list Pirate Bay? In my opinion no. Should Google de-list some things? No doubt yes. That is
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> It's also great that WTA does not depend on Chinese market Due to Covid several tournaments in China were cancelled, which seems to have helped.
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My understanding is that parent was not joking. It's a great thought experiment though, and let's not forget that humanity did eradicate a number of diseases.
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It should be noted that for Sars-Cov-2 specifically (i.e. given a virus that has the properties of Sars-Cov-2 already) lethality will likely be a neutral factor for the evolution going forward. The reason being that viral titres peak around
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I'm not sure I understand - that was the official position at the time, not a 'hot take' on Twitter. The problem with experts getting it wrong is experts getting it wrong, not the unfiltered fire hose that is Twitter. Edit: T
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To answer that question you need to dive into the original data set (if you want to see yourself: Search ONS death by vaccination status, in the .xlsx it's sheet 'Table 4'). There is a reason why the person who made the chart
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> None of this adds up to positive evidence of any variation of the "lab leak" theory but given that there is no alternative theory that holds up to serious scrutiny or doesn't have serious flaws or unanswered questions, i
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That is correct, thanks for clarifying.
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It seems to me you are really interested in an answer, so maybe you want to workout an answer yourself: * When did vaccination start for the group 10-59 in the UK? * How does the makeup of the group "unvaccinated" change over time
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Your link also provides the likely answer when you scroll down to the comments: > One reason not to draw too much of a conclusion is that 10 to 59 is a really, really broad age group, and the underlying death rate at the top of that grou
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5y ago
Yes, and we are also pretty certain that the mechanism of action is the number of mRNA particles contained: 30 µg for Pfizer/Biontech vs 100 µg for Moderna. As a result, Germany e.g. uses half-doses for Moderna and vaccinates under 30s
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Not really, because the risk of myocarditis/pericarditis when contracting Covid is several times larger than through the mRNA vaccines. Makes sense given that you are exposed to fewer viral particles through the vaccines. There is also
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5y ago
The author is a known quack, please stop spreading misinformation. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29298178
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5y ago
It takes a while until the voting takes effect. Scrolling through the replies in a Covid or vaccine related post shortly after posting is an eerie experience.
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> Clearly looking at the data from Israel - the most vaccinated country in the world - mRNA vaccines are not working as expected. What do you mean exactly? A quick back of the envelope calculation shows that Israel's approach is eq
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