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Tesla cleared in German probe

62 points by austengary 13y ago

TsiCClawOfLight 13y ago
Off-topic, but why does ghostery report 11! trackers!?
- ddorian43 13y ago
  18 for me & 14 adblocked
  - TsiCClawOfLight 13y ago
    that site is crazy...
    - kaybe 13y ago
      You're the market.. ;)
- frakkingcylons 13y ago
  23 for me with AdBlock Plus disabled, 19 with it enabled.
  - niranvk 13y ago
    same for me
- dgesang 13y ago
  Horrible website. It took me 1 minute to figure out all the Script- & CDN-domains to load the site properly and watch the actual content.
- computerJanitor 13y ago
  Well, the title has the words "German probe" in it. What nature of site did you expect?
deletes 13y ago
Tesla's press release: http://www.teslamotors.com/about/press/releases/german-federal-motor-transport-authority-kraftfahrtbundesamt-concludes-review-m http://www.teslamotors.com/about/press/releases/german-feder...
jusben1369 13y ago
- Does anyone else feel like this or am I being too cynical? U.S investigates fires "This is unfair! We're being poorly treated!! Why are we getting different treatment than our competitors? Is this politically motivated by the big car makers because we're a threat and they have Washington in their pockets?" Germany investigates fires and comes back with an all clear: "See! Nothing to see here. Thanks very much for investigating us and clearing us" So is it unfair to be investigating these fires or not?
- deleted 13y ago
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- nitrogen 13y ago
  One can be both upset with an accusation and glad that the accusation was dismissed.
- moocowduckquack 13y ago
  Both. It is fair to do a detailed investigation of the fires as the regulator is fairly unfamiliar with high speed electric vehicle crashes and any resulting fires and so from the regulators perspective it is wise to be cautious, because if they get it wrong they could suffer considerable political fallout. It is also fair for Tesla to feel that it is getting unfairly overscrutinised by the regulator, because it probably is compared to a manufacturer selling a similar number of petrol cars.
  - jusben1369 13y ago
    You guys are right. Most of the "unjust" complaints have been against the media vs the government: From Twitter: @elonmusk What makes this incredibly unjust is that the Model S to date has the best safety record of any car on the road (no injuries or deaths ever) 14d @elonmusk Why does a Tesla fire w no injury get more media headlines than 100,000 gas car fires that kill 100s of people per year?
    - micampe 13y ago
      Tesla “issues” get more attention than regular car issues for the same reasons Tesla successes get more attention than regular car successes. No one remembers what was last year's safest car.
brianstorms 13y ago
Meanwhile, in the US, NHTSA is demanding everything including the kitchen sink from Tesla. A gigantic amount of proprietary information: http://insideevs.com/nhtsa-issues-legally-enforceable-request-to-tesla-for-all-model-s-specific-information/ http://insideevs.com/nhtsa-issues-legally-enforceable-reques... They have until January 14th to deliver a massive amount of information to NHTSA -- including tons of it in Microsoft Access 2010 database format.
- pyrocat 13y ago
  Hahahahahah Access? Those poor souls.
- deleted 13y ago
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- wahsd 13y ago
  It should be noted what this finding says about the state of the German government. It provides me rather significant trust and confidence in a government that is honest enough to put out such a statement in spite of the rather existential threat that Tesla and electric motors represent to the German auto industry and the whole German economy. I find it encouraging that the German government is not cowering behind the protection of it's industry and rather saying "son, this is the competition. They are strong, and they are going to be touch to beat, but I am confident that you will work hard and become a better man by growing through the challenge" Is that too dramatic?
001sky 13y ago
link without all the trackers > http://news.morningstar.com/all/market-watch/TDJNMW20131203245/update-tesla-cleared-in-german-probe-apple-up-on-ubs-upgrade.aspx http://news.morningstar.com/all/market-watch/TDJNMW201312032...

62 points by austengary 13y ago

TsiCClawOfLight 13y ago

Off-topic, but why does ghostery report 11! trackers!?

ddorian43 13y ago
18 for me & 14 adblocked
- TsiCClawOfLight 13y ago
  that site is crazy...
  - kaybe 13y ago
    You're the market.. ;)
frakkingcylons 13y ago
23 for me with AdBlock Plus disabled, 19 with it enabled.
- niranvk 13y ago
  same for me
dgesang 13y ago
Horrible website. It took me 1 minute to figure out all the Script- & CDN-domains to load the site properly and watch the actual content.
computerJanitor 13y ago
Well, the title has the words "German probe" in it. What nature of site did you expect?

deletes 13y ago

Tesla's press release: http://www.teslamotors.com/about/press/releases/german-federal-motor-transport-authority-kraftfahrtbundesamt-concludes-review-m http://www.teslamotors.com/about/press/releases/german-feder...

jusben1369 13y ago

- Does anyone else feel like this or am I being too cynical? U.S investigates fires "This is unfair! We're being poorly treated!! Why are we getting different treatment than our competitors? Is this politically motivated by the big car makers because we're a threat and they have Washington in their pockets?" Germany investigates fires and comes back with an all clear: "See! Nothing to see here. Thanks very much for investigating us and clearing us" So is it unfair to be investigating these fires or not?

deleted 13y ago
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nitrogen 13y ago
One can be both upset with an accusation and glad that the accusation was dismissed.
moocowduckquack 13y ago
Both. It is fair to do a detailed investigation of the fires as the regulator is fairly unfamiliar with high speed electric vehicle crashes and any resulting fires and so from the regulators perspective it is wise to be cautious, because if they get it wrong they could suffer considerable political fallout. It is also fair for Tesla to feel that it is getting unfairly overscrutinised by the regulator, because it probably is compared to a manufacturer selling a similar number of petrol cars.
- jusben1369 13y ago
  You guys are right. Most of the "unjust" complaints have been against the media vs the government: From Twitter: @elonmusk What makes this incredibly unjust is that the Model S to date has the best safety record of any car on the road (no injuries or deaths ever) 14d @elonmusk Why does a Tesla fire w no injury get more media headlines than 100,000 gas car fires that kill 100s of people per year?
  - micampe 13y ago
    Tesla “issues” get more attention than regular car issues for the same reasons Tesla successes get more attention than regular car successes. No one remembers what was last year's safest car.

brianstorms 13y ago

Meanwhile, in the US, NHTSA is demanding everything including the kitchen sink from Tesla. A gigantic amount of proprietary information: http://insideevs.com/nhtsa-issues-legally-enforceable-request-to-tesla-for-all-model-s-specific-information/ http://insideevs.com/nhtsa-issues-legally-enforceable-reques... They have until January 14th to deliver a massive amount of information to NHTSA -- including tons of it in Microsoft Access 2010 database format.

pyrocat 13y ago
Hahahahahah Access? Those poor souls.
deleted 13y ago
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wahsd 13y ago
It should be noted what this finding says about the state of the German government. It provides me rather significant trust and confidence in a government that is honest enough to put out such a statement in spite of the rather existential threat that Tesla and electric motors represent to the German auto industry and the whole German economy. I find it encouraging that the German government is not cowering behind the protection of it's industry and rather saying "son, this is the competition. They are strong, and they are going to be touch to beat, but I am confident that you will work hard and become a better man by growing through the challenge" Is that too dramatic?

001sky 13y ago

link without all the trackers > http://news.morningstar.com/all/market-watch/TDJNMW20131203245/update-tesla-cleared-in-german-probe-apple-up-on-ubs-upgrade.aspx http://news.morningstar.com/all/market-watch/TDJNMW201312032...