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Iranian Hackers Post Images Over JFK Airport From UAV That Was Hijacked In March
- ToothlessJake 13y agoThe incident reported back in March via LATimes: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/05/nation/la-na-nn-faa-drone-jfk-airport-20130305 http://articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/05/nation/la-na-nn-faa-... Back-story on the series of on-going hacks by Iranians against US entities/corporations: http://cryptome.org/2013/07/ir-hack-forum.htm http://cryptome.org/2013/07/ir-hack-forum.htm
- HNLogInShit 13y agoThat incident was at 2 p.m. The pictures on this site are clearly not taken at 2 p.m.
- stefap2 13y agoThis is the recording (needs a login) http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10676.0;attach=7169 http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topi... Drone sighting at JFK
- celwell 13y agocan someone post their login info here please?
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- johnhess 13y agoWhat kind of list did I just get myself on for that little visit?
- kevin818 13y agoExcuse the ignorance but can someone explain to me what it is I'm looking at?
- wtvanhest 13y agoMy take on this is that someone is claiming that the UAV that crashed in Iran (supposedly hacked) had images on its hard drive of the JFK airport. That person is basically claiming that the UAV was at one point flown over JFK airport at some previous time before the US moved the UAV to the middle east.
- ToothlessJake 13y agoThe person does not claim that. Where did you draw this from?
- wtvanhest 13y agoI said "my take" because i, like other hn readers have no idea what I am looking at so I made a guess. You are the poster, you can explain what is going on here.
- itmard 13y agoI don't know what's that but i know rce.ir is a Iran Cyber Police owned site...be careful
- JeremyMorgan 13y agoI'm not sure what we're looking at there, but it's something I probably shouldn't have clicked on.
- potatolicious 13y agoYeah, I really would have appreciated some warning for that.
- TaylorAlexander 13y ago...why? Because it's arabic? Ooohhh, scary arabic. Or they're talking about spies and bombs? Don't we talk about those things on hacker news too? I can't read it, I'm working my way through the google translation and just starting, so maybe it's all "bad" stuff, but to be honest, I hope iranians can shed some light on what our government is doing - the US government itself certainly isn't going to help with that.
- intopieces 13y agoIt's Persian :) Very similar script, completely different language family. Persian is closer to English than Arabic.
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- jnbiche 13y agoI guess it would really blow your mind if we told you that this language is also in the same language family as English, German, and French (Indo-European).
- 3327 13y agoHey easy on the hot keywords we are all gonna get flagged by the thought police.
- TaylorAlexander 13y agoSo... this is really interesting and I have no idea what any of it says. I haven't tried google translate yet but there's also text on the images... Anyway, can someone (perhaps the original poster) explain what specifically is happening? :)
- ToothlessJake 13y agoA user/group named "Parastoo" has been hacking targets like IHS Janes: http://cryptome.org/2013/02/parastoo-janes-cbrn.htm http://cryptome.org/2013/02/parastoo-janes-cbrn.htm Recently has started making statements about hijacking drones: http://cryptome.org/2013/07/parastoo-uav-launch2.htm http://cryptome.org/2013/07/parastoo-uav-launch2.htm TLDR: Iranian chap(s) have been on a hacking spree and seem to be honing in on what they like to target. In this case US drones over US skies/assets.
- weinzierl 13y agoUS drones over US skies Are you saying the US uses drones on their own territory? If yes, what for? Spying their own people comes to my mind, but maybe I read to much spy stories lately and there are legitimate reasons.
- celwell 13y agoof course we do
- weinzierl 13y agoI'm sorry, I don't believe that. I mean, all this Internet and telecommunication surveillance is one thing - and a bad thing for sure, but spying drones is in another ballpark. I'll just leave this here from Orwell's 1984: In the far distance a helicopter skimmed down between the roofs, hovered for an instant like a bluebottle, and darted away again with a curving flight. It was the police patrol, snooping in people's windows.
- lostlogin 13y agoThat page is so incredibly foreign to me - right justified, stuff from right appears on left, things from top on bottom etc. I'm surprised how striking I found it.
- bdcs 13y agoI felt the same way the first time I saw an Arabic-English restaurant menu. The symmetry of the juxtaposition of the two typesetting schemes is quite elegant and striking. E.G., see here http://www.flickr.com/photos/denon/3563523851/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/denon/3563523851/
- pizza 13y agoIt's (obvious but still) cool to see how the more information-dense items are long in both sides!
- msoad 13y agoWhat if I tell you all your favorite website has right-to-left layout for right-to-left languages like Arabic, Hebrew and Farsi?
- lostlogin 13y agoWhich site are you meaning? Thinks like Google? Its made me realise how much I depend on so-called normal layouts for things like next page buttons etc. something I had never thought about really. Obviously I don't frequent many sites that are primarily in another language, Der Speigel is the only one I think. That site is left to right reading so it can follow the same formatting styles as English. I haven't noticed any German language related layout quirks there.
- msoad 13y agoYeah, Google (http://www.google.com/?hl=fa http://www.google.com/?hl=fa) Facebook. Basically any international website. If you ask UI developers of those companies they will tell you pains of making a UI that works both RTL and LTR
- msoad 13y agoJust yo let you know those text on photos are basically mystic poems. One of the tools Iranian propaganda uses
- omegant 13y agoWhat kind of mystic poems? autors? not precisely these ones but generally. I find it interesting.
- msoad 13y agoI'm not sure about authors, but I can try to translate. To give you a context, these poems are written by gnostic who believed they saw the real truth and they had no fear of dying because you can not never kill their souls. I assume any culture has this sort of things" First poem: We are stuck in a deep well of the bad thinking one Our message would not reach to you (God?) easily Second (red) I have experienced a lot of pain during my life No pain is comparable to pain of Hijran( being far from God, "the one", etc) Third (red) This is Arabic. I don't know Arabic. I can say it's part of Quran and it's referring to " thos who belive will be able to discove" or something like that.
- soheil 13y agoNone of them actually believe that crap. They want us to believe that they actually believe that crap. Get it? It's a scare tactic sorta similar to what the police in the US uses and should not be unfamiliar to anyone living here.
- kissickas 13y agoIt is definitely not a part of the Qur'an. Can't say I know what it is though.
- oostevo 13y agoMy Arabic is pretty terrible, so the third part didn't make much sense at all, but I copied it as: بكم فتح الله و بكم يختم و بكم ينزل الغيث و بكم يمسك السماء ان تقع على الارض الا باذنه و بكم ينفس الهم و يكشف الضر Maybe someone else who speaks the language or someone who wants to try with Google Translate could help out.
- ToothlessJake 13y agoI made a brief timeline of Parastoo hacks when submitting the Cryptome.org article on this topic. The hacker(s) referenced VSATs and drone hijacking after hacking IHS Janes, pre-JFK drone incident. They then started to reference the JFK incident in further releases about hijacking US drones over US skies/assets: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6038657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6038657
- marshray 13y agoAll I see are two images of nondescript buildings and cars labeled "FLIR Systems". Would an actual drone image used for reconnaissance over hostile territory waste a bunch of screen area on the manufacturer name of the camera? Also, there's some censored text in the upper left. I suspect that's the date and time. My guess is these pictures were lifted from promotional material like the "MicroSTAR" sheet just below it.
- qq66 13y agoFLIR uses that text for price discrimination - the camera is much more expensive without the text.
- marshray 13y agoNow there's an industry ripe for disruption. Must be patents.
- magicalist 13y agoI'm surprised no one else in this thread has said anything. Maybe there's some more context? The only context provided so far is that LA Times article talking about a sighting of an "unmanned aircraft or drone" near JFK in March, with (AFAICT) no connection with this forum post at all, except one or more of the posts in that thread also seem to mention JFK. Is anyone actually taking this seriously? Do people not know that forums are full of bullshit the world over? Edit: in fact, this person seems to be pushing these "Parastoo" self-published press releases rather hard, which themselves seem to be bullshit aimed at pressing members of the IAEA to publicly denounce Israel (while trumpeting their own hacker cred, of course). The only way anyone is ever going to see the threats in those releases is if they get eyes on them. There may be a story in chaining together these seemingly grandiose claims, but it's not in this random forum post of non-descript screenshots, and until I see evidence otherwise, I'm going to go ahead and assume this person is here to try and get "grassroots" attention on their self promotion.
- D9u 13y agoI thought "FLIR" meant "Forward Looking InfraRed?"
- soheil 13y agoJust because you can use MSPaint to draw some text on some images doesn't mean you're a hacker. Get it right HN!
- scottmcleod 13y agoLook at OP's submissions..
- zxcdw 13y agoWhat about them, exactly?
- blhack 13y agoThis thread seems to be pretty chock full of some tinfoil hats. 1) You're not going to be added to "a list" because you clicked a link on hacker news. Remember that the NSA employs some of the smartest people in the world. Would it be meaningful to add a bunch of curious silicon valleyists to a list of "possible terrorists"? Probably not. 2) If you think that an aircraft that is anything bigger than a small pigeon could get anywhere near a major airport without getting itself a nice escort, then you're nuts. Here is a map of the airspace near JFK: http://www.aeroplanner.com/notams/airspace.cfm?apt=jfk http://www.aeroplanner.com/notams/airspace.cfm?apt=jfk This is all "Class b" or "bravo" airspace. It's all heavily controlled, heavily monitored with radar, and you have to ask permission to enter it. It's incredibly unlikely that there was a "drone" in bravo airspace. Possibly a UAV, definitely not the boogey man Iranians. 3) This website doesn't even say anything. It's some pictures that could have easily been photoshopped together. Google translate isn't giving me anything interesting, and unless HN is a LOT more diverse than I realized, you're all going nuts over a couple of grainy photos. Finally, here is what the drone that Iran supposedly "captured" last year looks like: http://i.imgur.com/ALveZWi.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ALveZWi.jpg It isn't a toy. It's huge. There is no way that is getting anywhere near a RADAR without everybody knowing about it. Yes, it is [possibly...meant to be, rumored to be] stealth. That doesn't mean it's going to go undetected into a major airport like that. Relax. Go have a beer.
- jnbiche 13y ago1. You have a lot more confidence in our government's ability to accurately compile lists than I do, particularly in light of the failures of the no-fly list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List#False_positives https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List#False_positives 2. Based on commentary from native Persian speakers on this thread, it would appear that no one is claiming that the drone was remotely piloted by Iranians into US Airspace, but rather the one that was shot down in Iran several months ago (confirmed by the US Government) had these photos on it. 3. See above, there are at least 2 Persian speakers on this thread. HN is a LOT more diverse than you realize. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–U.S._RQ-170_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–U.S._RQ-170_incident
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- thezach 13y agoIf you look at OP's submissions you can see that well, this person posts iranian hacking stuff, and thats it. Makes you wonder about OP's motives. I'm also okay if the NSA targets OP looking at his submission list.
- mkr-hn 13y agoPeople have their domains of interest. Not all hacker-minded people focus on the latest fad programming language or database.
- LoganCale 13y agoIt's probably a throwaway account for posting information related to this. Shame on you.
- betawolf33 13y agoI looked at his submission history. I see four items. The first, dated four days ago (and the only I see one preceeding this), is a title making some sort of claim about Booz Hamilton based on a whois lookup. Not exactly a quality submission, but it has nothing to do with Iran or hacking. The other three submissions are all about what seems to be some news he's stumbled on about hacking/reverse engineering claims from Iran. Considering this is 'Hacker' news, you can understand why he might think we'd be interested in this. Of course, it would be better form for him to write up an article explaining the separation or link between these items rather than posting lots of direct evidence. None of that means he should expect to have his privacy breached by a US intelligence agency, and frankly your support for that on the basis of such a flimsy characterisation is blood-chilling. A lot of people seem to have become alarmed because they've seen persian text and heard that it's about hacking. That's equally chilling. Is this all it takes?
- rogerthis 13y agoHey, iranian coming here, how are you doing?
- frozenport 13y agoBecause I can't read moon runes, what is this this about? Its bad enough when people drop technical posts without context, but seriously what is this saying? Perhaps we should actively encourage posts in English so that anybody from Bangkok, Baghdad, Beijing and Boston and could understand these posts.
- kexrex 13y agoThis is the worst video I've seen this century. Is it even 320px? You can barely make out the tailplanes aboard the giant floating airport. Ain't nobody gonna end up in Gitmo for watching that crap. BUT The music makes me tense - that ain't no terrorist electronica. This is noise.
- davenull 13y agoI call bullshit. There are numerous "funny bits" in this thread, number one, they display the info page for a "UAV Imager system" which in no way offers control of a drone. Second, the very generalized schematic for a nuclear power station, most likely a mid-60's design BWR, means nothing to anyone.