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Investment banks are scum. They do basically nothing themselves and eat millions in profit. Simply because of their position and nothing else.
by gundy 13y ago
Investment banks are scum. They do basically nothing themselves and eat millions in profit. Simply because of their position and nothing else.
- sjwright 13y agoHaving money is a valuable service to offer. It's why we have interest rates.
- PavlovsCat 13y agoInterest rates is why there is always more debt in the system than money, and why capitalism as a whole can be more likened to cancer than anything else. But don't take my word for it, wait until the host dies.
- PavlovsCat 13y agoShow me a smart person disagreeing with actual arguments, and in the meantime know that even a million zeroes add up to exactly zero.
- chii 13y agoonly true if money they had actually represents real work that somebody created then transferred as money to them. The current status quo is that a bank creates money out of thin air, which they can then profit off. This money they create _might_ represent value, but only after the loanee does some work for the debt. Therefore, all interest payment on such created money are essentially a "tax" the banks leeches off the people who did the real work.
- gundy 13y agoMoney is simply a manipulation of language backed up by force. The paper coerces sharing (whether fairly or unfairly) of resources (whether labor or physical resources like trees and oil) in a way that does not spontaneously happen without the paper. A simple example would be without money you barter which is also a manipulation of language expressed through physical items. You need this I need that so we exchange. With money the equation becomes you need something, and you can buy it with money, here is some money, now give me what I want. The intermediary form of this was gold, because people can agree that gold is reliable. We replace that with simple language backed up by force, a dollar. A piece of paper that initially will stand in for gold to establish its value, but eventually will stand in for itself. Eventually we replace this with something like Bitcoin, no coercion simply an agreement in language justified through a market. Quid pro quo.
- penguindev 13y agoCorrect, but that's been the case for a very long time. Banknotes and fractional reserve lending have been around the block many times, even under a 'gold standard'. It's a banker's world; we just live in it. "Gold is money. Everything else is credit". - J.P. Morgan
- gundy 13y agoAnyone with money would suffice (and pretty much anyone would be willing to provide the service for a song considering there is no risk to them even if they mess up, FB anyone) when floating a stock. Instead banks get to do their retarded song and dance that no one needs or wants and they collect millions for that which enriches their managers for nothing.
- dllthomas 13y agoInvestment banks are salesmen with some lawyers attached. I'll leave it to you to decide how this should affect your assessment...
- chrisgd 13y agoInvestment banking is relationships. just like all business. Their role in the housing crisis is despicable. Their role in an IPO is pretty important