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Did you consider kicking his ass? Seriously.

by exim 13y ago

throwaway10283 13y ago
I've had many thoughts. I mostly think about an attorney I once worked with who told me that no startup would ever sue their employee because they'd never get anybody to work for them ever again. And then I thought, "gee, I should make a website that's like glassdoor specifically for startups."
- ceejayoz 13y ago
  > And then I thought, "gee, I should make a website that's like glassdoor specifically for startups." Which would promptly be subject to defamation lawsuits. Heh.
  - throwaway10283 13y ago
    We like to call those SLAPP suits... California has some pretty awesome tools for disposing of those promptly.
  - deleted 13y ago
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  - rhizome 13y ago
    Truth is a defense to libel.
    - ceejayoz 13y ago
      Yes, but it doesn't necessarily pay the defense bills.
      - rhizome 13y ago
        Eh, by crossing the street I am "subject to" being hit by a car. I am still able to walk from one side of town to the other, though.
- untog 13y ago
  When the issue is done and dusted, definitely write about it. Startups have to compete hard to get tech talent, and if you make your experience known you might save a lot of other people a lot of pain.
  - niggler 13y ago
    Also, it would be nice to know what firms to avoid in the future (I don't want to go into business with a highly litigious company)
jacquesm 13y ago
> Did you consider kicking his ass? Seriously. Seriously, you're an idiot. If you escalate to violence the only thing you will achieve is that on top of being sued for whatever he's being sued for right now he's going to: (1) hand a very large trump card or a free victory to the plaintiff in the other suit (2) quite possibly end up with a record to boot
- meerita 13y ago
  This. Never recur to violence. Never.
  - abcd_f 13y ago
    Please don't use "This." one-liner. It's corny.
    - BHSPitMonkey 13y ago
      Precisely.
- wtvanhest 13y ago
  Seriously, you're an idiot. If you escalate to violence the only thing you will achieve is that on top of being sued for whatever he's being sued for right now he's going to: First, maybe he is an idiot, maybe he isn't, but I definitely don't think it is fair for his comment to be discounted as highly as it is, as quickly. (1) hand a very large trump card or a free victory to the plaintiff in the other suit I am no lawyer, but I doubt highly that a physical altercation will change the facts of the original lawsuit, so your assumption here seems false. (2) quite possibly end up with a record to boot, quite possible, but that record will stand as a message to future hostile parties. I'm not saying that's always good, it may prevent him from getting a job somewhere, etc., or it may not. Violence is rarely the answer, but to be so flippant and assume it never is and say "you're an idiot" is really misunderstanding the power dynamic. In America, the punishment for violence is high relative to the value in almost all cases but there are definitely situations where being a violent aggressor will payoff. I'm not advocating it here, in this case, or any other, but taking that option off the table completely is immature and shows a lack of understanding of how the real world can work. To support my claim, I'll give an example of where violence was used effectively against me. - 1) I had a car repainted when in high school (it has a lot of random damage and I needed to prevent it from rusting.) 2) I negotiated with an independent body shop 3) I had it repainted 4) They didn't do as good of a job as they described. 5) I came back to the body shop, my car was not there, one of the workers had taken it out on a beer run. He came back with the car and he was still drunk. 6) I confronted him in a professional but frustrated manor. 7) His coworker threatened me. 8) I realized I wasn't going to fight this guy without a weapon and decided to back down and just drop it. The threat of violence worked for him and his coworker. Without it, they had zero negotiating room and the driver would have likely been fired. Could I have gone to the police? Maybe, but they likely wouldn't have done anything.
torya 13y ago
poison is a powerful tool

Did you consider kicking his ass? Seriously.

by exim 13y ago

Did you consider kicking his ass? Seriously.

I've had many thoughts. I mostly think about an attorney I once worked with who told me that no startup would ever sue their employee because they'd never get anybody to work for them ever again. And then I thought, "gee, I should make a website that's like glassdoor specifically for startups."

ceejayoz 13y ago
> And then I thought, "gee, I should make a website that's like glassdoor specifically for startups." Which would promptly be subject to defamation lawsuits. Heh.
- throwaway10283 13y ago
  We like to call those SLAPP suits... California has some pretty awesome tools for disposing of those promptly.
- deleted 13y ago
  [deleted]
- rhizome 13y ago
  Truth is a defense to libel.
  - ceejayoz 13y ago
    Yes, but it doesn't necessarily pay the defense bills.
    - rhizome 13y ago
      Eh, by crossing the street I am "subject to" being hit by a car. I am still able to walk from one side of town to the other, though.
untog 13y ago
When the issue is done and dusted, definitely write about it. Startups have to compete hard to get tech talent, and if you make your experience known you might save a lot of other people a lot of pain.
- niggler 13y ago
  Also, it would be nice to know what firms to avoid in the future (I don't want to go into business with a highly litigious company)

jacquesm 13y ago

> Did you consider kicking his ass? Seriously. Seriously, you're an idiot. If you escalate to violence the only thing you will achieve is that on top of being sued for whatever he's being sued for right now he's going to: (1) hand a very large trump card or a free victory to the plaintiff in the other suit (2) quite possibly end up with a record to boot

meerita 13y ago
This. Never recur to violence. Never.
- abcd_f 13y ago
  Please don't use "This." one-liner. It's corny.
  - BHSPitMonkey 13y ago
    Precisely.
wtvanhest 13y ago
Seriously, you're an idiot. If you escalate to violence the only thing you will achieve is that on top of being sued for whatever he's being sued for right now he's going to: First, maybe he is an idiot, maybe he isn't, but I definitely don't think it is fair for his comment to be discounted as highly as it is, as quickly. (1) hand a very large trump card or a free victory to the plaintiff in the other suit I am no lawyer, but I doubt highly that a physical altercation will change the facts of the original lawsuit, so your assumption here seems false. (2) quite possibly end up with a record to boot, quite possible, but that record will stand as a message to future hostile parties. I'm not saying that's always good, it may prevent him from getting a job somewhere, etc., or it may not. Violence is rarely the answer, but to be so flippant and assume it never is and say "you're an idiot" is really misunderstanding the power dynamic. In America, the punishment for violence is high relative to the value in almost all cases but there are definitely situations where being a violent aggressor will payoff. I'm not advocating it here, in this case, or any other, but taking that option off the table completely is immature and shows a lack of understanding of how the real world can work. To support my claim, I'll give an example of where violence was used effectively against me. - 1) I had a car repainted when in high school (it has a lot of random damage and I needed to prevent it from rusting.) 2) I negotiated with an independent body shop 3) I had it repainted 4) They didn't do as good of a job as they described. 5) I came back to the body shop, my car was not there, one of the workers had taken it out on a beer run. He came back with the car and he was still drunk. 6) I confronted him in a professional but frustrated manor. 7) His coworker threatened me. 8) I realized I wasn't going to fight this guy without a weapon and decided to back down and just drop it. The threat of violence worked for him and his coworker. Without it, they had zero negotiating room and the driver would have likely been fired. Could I have gone to the police? Maybe, but they likely wouldn't have done anything.

torya 13y ago

poison is a powerful tool