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Or you know, stop working on it if its that dangerous? This whole thing of a bunch of employees saying that they are scared of building what they are building,
by calgoo 3d ago
Or you know, stop working on it if its that dangerous? This whole thing of a bunch of employees saying that they are scared of building what they are building, but do it anyway because they are somehow going to make it different? Their model has been used in the planning of mass murdering in war as well as spying on the entire worlds population as well as helping ICE out in the US. They need to stop this BS fearmongering or actually stand up and do something about it. A government regulation is not the answer, especially when its done in a country that is run by a want to be dictator.
- int_19h 3d agoAnthropic specifically is basically saying that they believe it's even more dangerous if someone else gets to AGI before they do, so they have to either stop everyone or not stop themselves. I personally disagree with that take - and, as you note, it's hard to take seriously ethical wrangles from a company that literally sued the government in court to allow their models to be used by Palantir of all people. But if one genuinely believes that it's the robots themselves (rather than the people controlling the robots) that will kill us all, it's not inconsistent.
- the_optimist 3d agoIt’s a bit of a self-serving argument, don’t you think? And how does that relate to the ask for oligopoly licensing within global democracy? “We must build the nuclear bomb first in order to make sure no one else builds one.” This the most nonsense, disingenuous argument imaginable.
- forgotone 3d agoThe people at these companies are dumb as rocks. All “tech workers” are.
- quickthrowman 3d ago> Anthropic specifically is basically saying that they believe it's even more dangerous if someone else gets to AGI before they do, so they have to either stop everyone or not stop themselves. That’s how people rationalize being a fentanyl dealer and selling a drug that can kill people, “Someone else will just sell them the drugs, might as well be me.”
- folkrav 3d agoThat's the Cold War nuclear arms race argument, not even disguised. The actual situation we all ended up in is both sides eventually having it, leading to a perpetual state of Mutually Assured Destruction. As you note, it may not be inconsistent with that they say they believe, but it's insanely inconsistent with what they actually are doing.
- ben_w 3d ago> Or you know, stop working on it if its that dangerous? Selection effect. Everyone who thinks "the biggest difference I can make is staying in/joining/founding new AI research lab" does that. Everyone who thinks "the biggest difference I can make is leaving/whistleblowing", does that. Treating both groups as the same by virtue of employer is the goomba fallacy.
- phoghed 3d agoThey allegedly believe the technology itself is a nuclear weapon tier threat or greater, so why does it matter which lab they are trying to achieve it at?
- azan_ 3d agoI’m really glad us achieved nuclear weapon before nazi germany.
- ben_w 3d agoThey're trying to make it not be a threat, and are all scared and afraid that their best efforts to make it harmless are not enough. Some are worried by the AI directly bringing doom; others are worried that one of the companies who control the AI will become a dictator; still more think becoming a dictator is a necessary step to safely prevent anyone else making unsafe AI. Painting them all under one brush is like dismissing all animal welfare causes in general, because you disagree with specifically Jainists about a policy of non-violence towards all living creatures being relevant to how you reincarnate: the one is way too specific for the general.