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This is exactly the reason Anthropic's call to slow down A.I. development will fail. Shareholders will be loath to accept that the company loses its lead and a

This is exactly the reason Anthropic's call to slow down A.I. development will fail. Shareholders will be loath to accept that the company loses its lead and a commensurate sharp decline in the company's share price. Moreover, it could lead China to catch up and eventually proclaim that it has nosed ahead of the U.S. in the field. The U.S. Government won't allow that to happen.

ElProlactin 6d ago
> The U.S. Government won't allow that to happen. Like the US government wouldn't allow Iran to close the Strait of Hormuz? Or a bunch of sandal-wearing Islamists to take control over the Red Sea coastline? The US government is not omnipotent. To the contrary, it's increasingly impotent. China has somewhere around 200x more shipbuilding capacity than the US today. It has more shipbuilding capacity in one shipyard that the US has in all of its shipyards. China is already a force in AI and there is nothing the US government can do to stop it at this point.
- gpt5 6d ago
  You are right, US can do nothing on AI. After all, it doesn't have the shipbuilding capacity or even beat sandal-wearing islamists.
  - ElProlactin 6d ago
    Being sarcastic isn't going to solve the problem but you're obviously free to believe that the US is still in a position to call all the shots when it's evident to the rest of the world this isn't the case.
    - gpt5 6d ago
      I’m just repeating your words back to you so hopefully you realize how ridiculous it sounds. Also - I think you totally missed the point of the grandparent poster, which is that US will not let US companies slow down.
      - ElProlactin 6d ago
        The only thing ridiculous here is thinking that the US government is in control to the level you think it is. Spending $500+ billion/year (and close to a trillion now) on defense for decades and in ~6 months it has depleted stocks of critical weapons trying unsuccessfully to defeat a third-rate military power of a country that has been under sanctions for almost 50 years. And it can't even replenish them without Chinese raw materials and components.
      - noisy_boy 6d ago
        Your sarcastic refutation of the allegedly ridiculous assertion was devoid of any counterpoints on how the US government can stop China's progress in AI and what you think they are going to do about it. Just repeating it doesn't make it any more or less ridiculous.
  - mepiethree 6d ago
    Shipbuilding is but one proxy for China’s dominance in industrialization. A more relevant one for AI is: China has built more energy capacity in the last 4 years than the USA has built in the last 150. AI is increasingly limited by power. For this and other reasons, IMO the US will inevitably be surpassed on AI. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-28/china-s-four-year-energy-spree-has-eclipsed-entire-us-power-grid https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-28/china-s-f...
  - swat535 6d ago
    The "sandal-wearing islamists." as you refer them to here, invented Algebra and the postal relay system. The best part of your comment is that US couldn't even defeat the Houthis, who literally wear sandals in the desert.
bawana 6d ago
I cant wait till China makes a mistake. In their 'cheaper, faster' model of industrial production and research. The next accident will happen there (like COVID from Wuhan)

ElProlactin 6d ago

> The U.S. Government won't allow that to happen. Like the US government wouldn't allow Iran to close the Strait of Hormuz? Or a bunch of sandal-wearing Islamists to take control over the Red Sea coastline? The US government is not omnipotent. To the contrary, it's increasingly impotent. China has somewhere around 200x more shipbuilding capacity than the US today. It has more shipbuilding capacity in one shipyard that the US has in all of its shipyards. China is already a force in AI and there is nothing the US government can do to stop it at this point.

gpt5 6d ago
You are right, US can do nothing on AI. After all, it doesn't have the shipbuilding capacity or even beat sandal-wearing islamists.
- ElProlactin 6d ago
  Being sarcastic isn't going to solve the problem but you're obviously free to believe that the US is still in a position to call all the shots when it's evident to the rest of the world this isn't the case.
  - gpt5 6d ago
    I’m just repeating your words back to you so hopefully you realize how ridiculous it sounds. Also - I think you totally missed the point of the grandparent poster, which is that US will not let US companies slow down.
    - ElProlactin 6d ago
      The only thing ridiculous here is thinking that the US government is in control to the level you think it is. Spending $500+ billion/year (and close to a trillion now) on defense for decades and in ~6 months it has depleted stocks of critical weapons trying unsuccessfully to defeat a third-rate military power of a country that has been under sanctions for almost 50 years. And it can't even replenish them without Chinese raw materials and components.
    - noisy_boy 6d ago
      Your sarcastic refutation of the allegedly ridiculous assertion was devoid of any counterpoints on how the US government can stop China's progress in AI and what you think they are going to do about it. Just repeating it doesn't make it any more or less ridiculous.
- mepiethree 6d ago
  Shipbuilding is but one proxy for China’s dominance in industrialization. A more relevant one for AI is: China has built more energy capacity in the last 4 years than the USA has built in the last 150. AI is increasingly limited by power. For this and other reasons, IMO the US will inevitably be surpassed on AI. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-28/china-s-four-year-energy-spree-has-eclipsed-entire-us-power-grid https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-28/china-s-f...
- swat535 6d ago
  The "sandal-wearing islamists." as you refer them to here, invented Algebra and the postal relay system. The best part of your comment is that US couldn't even defeat the Houthis, who literally wear sandals in the desert.

bawana 6d ago

I cant wait till China makes a mistake. In their 'cheaper, faster' model of industrial production and research. The next accident will happen there (like COVID from Wuhan)