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Just the fact that Musk is in the conversation, and he's one of the most hated people on the planet, should give anyone pause as to whether we want these folk i
by passive 4d ago
Just the fact that Musk is in the conversation, and he's one of the most hated people on the planet, should give anyone pause as to whether we want these folk in charge of our future to any degree at all.
- monomyth 4d agonon sequitur
- genxy 4d agopareto parrot
- dakolli 4d agoI think it has everything to do with the subject at hand. Elon, Dario and Altman are all terrible human beings, along with 99.99% of the rest of the ruling class. We don't need any of them, and we definitely shouldn't trust a single syllable that comes out their mouth.
- qup 4d agoYoung people who start companies that become successful are now "the ruling class"?
- hdgvhicv 4d agoMoney equals power. If you have the wealth you have the control. Any politicians are owned by you as you simply threaten to buy their opponent. The public can be brainwashed by a trillion dollar advertising industry. You own the platforms everyone communicates on. You have inprecented resources to bend the world to your will and your only competiton is other people equally wealthy.
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- wpm 4d agoYes.
- wincy 4d agoI think there are plenty of people that like Elon Musk. They just know to keep their mouth shut in front of the people that act like he’s the Antichrist.
- tuatoru 4d agoAnd still others who think he has an difficult personality and set of beliefs, but who greatly respect his achievements.
- ascorbic 4d agoThose are not incompatible. He can still be one of the most hated people on the planet, even if lots of people like him. The same would apply to all of the most hated people in history.
- customguy 4d agoNo, they don't keep their mouth shut, they just don't have any relevant arguments. Many people are liked by plenty people and also not hated for doing Hitler salutes and the like. That's the part that matters, not that "somebody likes them", which is true for everyone. Charles Manson had women lining up to marry him, so?
- hdgvhicv 4d agoThere are plenty who like him. There are plenty who wave confederate flags. There are plenty who support the mass corruption of the current administration. You’re technically correct yes.
- falserum 4d ago“Technically correct" means a statement or action follows strict rules or exact facts precisely, even if it ignores the wider meaning or real-world intention. I think op was also actually-correct. (For better or worse, that is the objective reality; Musk still has lot of fans)
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- sph 4d agoSomehow I’m more afraid of it being in the hands of Altman, with his ‘I’m creating a better world for everyone’ god complex, than Musk who is just a run-of-the-mill sociopathic nerd. There is no one is more dangerous than one who believes he is doing the right thing.
- UncleMeat 3d agoMusk is actively promoting white supremacy with his voice and fortune. That's not run-of-the-mill.
- hdgvhicv 4d agoSomeone with the resources to do things is far more dangerous than someone without. If you local librarian thinks He is doing the right thing he’s not going to cause massive war or destroy the economy and wipe out 2/3rd of crops. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. People like musk, altman, trump have unprecedented power in history - far more than the kings of medieval times.
- sph 4d agoThank you, but we're discussing who's the worse to decide the fate of humanity between Amodei, Musk and Altman, not if one should be afraid of their local librarian. All three currently hold a lot of power in their hands. Though I know I attracted all the downvotes for not agreeing with most Americans that Musk is the worst person since Adolf.
- shakna 4d agoSociopathic nerd, putting an awful lot of money into legalising CSAM, and interfering in elections domestic and foreign. Dunno if I'd rank Musk's danger down - he screams a certain ideology these days. He might well believe he is doing the right thing.
- falserum 4d ago> awful lot of money into legalising CSAM Could I ask what you have in mind (I doubt there was a US bill for that; google won’t help me without knowing what to look for)
- brainwad 4d agoMusk being in the conversation is a great justification for Anthropic accelerationism. Who wants to live in the world where _Musk_ controls the AGI?
- cyanydeez 4d agoI'm pretty sure the odds arn't 1/3, AI saves us. The thing that ties these three people together is money. Money is what will turn them to assholes, more than anything else. Now AI is likely just as, if not worse, than having a bunch of lackeys telling your farts, shits and piss liven up whatever room you're shitting in.
- timmg 3d ago> he's one of the most hated people on the planet Not saying you need to like Musk or his politics. But if he really is "one of the most hated people on the planet" it doesn't really say good things about the planet. He made electric cars viable. That is probably the single biggest thing helping us mitigate climate change. It would have come eventually, for sure. But he accelerated it. He also accelerated the space age. Maybe it doesn't impress everyone. But I think what SpaceX has done is amazing.
- rewgs 3d agoHe bought a car company and convinced everyone he founded it. But that's not the problem, really -- the problem is that everyone fawning over him and calling him the "real-life Tony Stark" wasn't enough for his blackhole of an ego. He's a Sieg Heil-ing man-baby who's so fragile he paid people to play video games for him. He called a a guy trying to save children a pedophile just because the guy rightly pointed out Elon's idea was stupid. He has a weird breeder fetish, while disowning children who call him out for his hateful, moronic politics and horrendous parenting (or lack thereof). He's illegally influenced elections and very potentially put his thumb on the scale. I could go on and on. The only thing that worries me about him being one of the most hated people on the planet is that not everyone thinks so and that he still somehow has fans.
- dabauws 3d agohe can have done all of those great things and still be a twat.
- nvme0n1p1 3d ago> He made electric cars viable. Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning made electric cars viable. Then 5 years later Musk became CEO of the company and started claiming he was a cofounder.
- timmg 3d agoDude. Electric cars have existed since the 1800s. Musk was the one that actually made them a practical thing. And most of the rest of the world is well on their way to electrifying their transportation.