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What theft? LLM output has never been copyrightable.
by paxys 8d ago
What theft? LLM output has never been copyrightable.
- _alternator_ 8d agoI'll give you the benefit of the doubt. GP was referring to the use of copyrighted material to train LLMs.
- orangecat 8d agoWhich is not "theft" according to current legal precedent, and also common sense.
- ironman1478 8d agoIt is theft under common sense.
- conz 8d agoOnly in the sense that you reading a book from the library also constitutes theft of knowledge. Does it?
- 20k 8d agoIf I stole someone's private research notes and republished them loosely in my own words, they'd correctly be pissed This was unpublished research that was stolen, and constitutes plagiarism and academic fraud by even the strictest definition
- paxys 7d agoThey are not “private research notes” if they are generated by an LLM.
- 20k 7d agoThe prompts they put in are the equivalent
- logicchains 8d ago>This was unpublished research that was stolen, and constitutes plagiarism and academic fraud by even the strictest definition It was not stolen, it was willingly given.
- 20k 7d agoThe terms of service does not dictate what constitutes plagiarism
- matt3210 8d agoHunting an animal would be considered ok by most, but scaling it to the point of damage is not ok according to most.
- haunter 8d agoDownload a book and you are a thief Download 1 million books and you are OpenAI
- Squarex 7d agoWhat? HN has always praised Library Genesis for example.
- an0malous 7d agoLibgen isn’t trying to sell you back the content for $100/month. No one would be complaining if OpenAI open sourced their models.
- Davidzheng 7d agothe second part is definitely not true
- an0malous 7d agoNo one's complaining about stolen content from any of the labs releasing open source models
- paxys 8d ago1. using copyrighted material to train LLMs is fair use, not theft 2. The topic we are dissussing concerns LLMs being trained on logs from previous LLM chats. If you're prompting a model and it spits out some unique mathematical insight, you do not have copyright on that.