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He resigned and now what? There are thousands willing to do his role, and many labs are competing in that race. His resignation and his statement doesn't do an
by aogaili 8d ago
He resigned and now what? There are thousands willing to do his role, and many labs are competing in that race.
His resignation and his statement doesn't do anything but buy him attention which is what all this post about in my opinion.
- sb8244 8d agoAwareness and morality I suppose. Which generally doesn't matter in the capitalist AI race.
- lf88 8d agoIt seems that, at the very least, he's giving substantial resonance to the issue.
- bigstrat2003 8d agoEven if others won't act right, that doesn't mean you have no responsibility to act right. I think his premise is flawed - the idea that we will get an actual intelligence out of the slop machine that is LLMs is laughable - but if you grant the premise that this is dangerous research which could kill us all, you have a moral imperative to not participate.
- dgellow 8d agoAn artificial moron with super human hacking abilities (mostly because of speed and ease of parallelizing the work) is extremely dangerous in itself. It doesn’t mean to be AGI or anything remotely close to be a risk, and they current AI company are just so irresponsible in the way they are running their agents
- qarl 8d agoIt buys attention for the issue. Many people (see other comments in this very post) refuse to believe these things. And by resigning he no longer has to feel personally guilty for what happens.
- skeledrew 8d agoBy resigning he's making room for someone with less moral scruples, or even just less awareness, to step in and continue the work without said scruples/awareness.
- dwaltrip 7d agoThis isn’t true. It only has no impact if there is an infinite supply of these “immoral” or unaware people, which obviously isn’t the case. You also need to consider 2nd order effects and beyond.
- Rzor 7d agoI'm sure a bunch of Nazis told themselves the same thing.
- hegelstoleit 8d agoThat's not necessarily true, and you can use that argument to justify doing any immoral job. Just because someone else might be willing to do it isn't a reason to continue doing it.
- skeledrew 8d ago> not necessarily true It's a possibility that is increased by their action. One leaves, a space is now open that will likely eventually be filled. And the chance of someone with equal/higher scruples filling it is very slim (unless you somehow know that the good amount of those who qualify and apply for the position have equal/higher scruples). That's just logic and math.
- mlmonkey 8d agoAgreed. And his doom words have set a 1000 mouths in the Pentagon/Whitehall/August 1st Building/Kremlin salivating with excitement. Take China, for example. Look at any recent ML conference, and see the fraction of articles majority-authored from Chinese universities and labs. Do you think they'll slow things down anytime soon? I don't think so! It's a global arms race, and we're just spectators.
- foogazi 8d agoDoes this matter vs actual capabilities? Does the Kremlin being excited about a tech mean anything of the tech doesn’t deliver?
- jonhohle 8d ago> Dyson: That's right. There's no way I'm gonna finish the new <model>, not now. Forget it. I'm out of it. I'll quit <Anthropic> tomorrow. > Sarah: That's not good enough. > Terminator: No one must follow your work.
- foogazi 8d ago> There are thousands willing to do his role 1. Does that matter ? There are thousands willing to do my role - what impact does that have on me doing it or not? 2. Why weren’t these thousands doing it already? Willing to and able to are different things
- aogaili 8d agoI think you are looking at it from individuals perspective. I see a fast moving train with no brakes. Just like biological evolution, we are locked in an a global technological arm race, that is beyond any individual. It is as if the universe decided to wake up and run, who are you to say no? One would argue that the best solution for this is to own the most sophisticated AI that is aligned with what we perceive as good values. Because given the situation we are in, if those tools are going to be gods anytime soon, then we better have some gods working on our side.
- entropyneur 8d agoWhat do your expect him to do? Blow up the office Miles Dyson style?
- bean469 7d agoPosting on the internet about you quiting your job is always going to be about attention