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If you're smart enough to solve this Navier-Stokes problem, you're smart enough to read a TOS and recognize that OAI is a highly untrustworthy company. Putting
by red_green_yell 8d ago
If you're smart enough to solve this Navier-Stokes problem, you're smart enough to read a TOS and recognize that OAI is a highly untrustworthy company. Putting cutting edge research that could lead to a $1M prize into a cloud LLM with a TOS that allows training on your chats is really just asking for it.
Given Tristan doesn't explicitly say he was using the API, and given he doesn't mention anything about the API TOS (which disallows training on chats) in his call with OAI, it's highly likely Tristan was using the consumer OAI product (whose TOS allows training on chats).
This is unethical behavior from OAI. And it is 100% consistent with their long and public history of unethical behavior, so nobody should be surprised.
The only thing interesting I see here is OAI PR dilemma. If they claim the prize they get the blowback we're seeing in this thread and all over the web right now. But most people don't follow AI closely and shut off their brains when they see "Navier-Stokes", so 90% potential investors (the only people OAI really care about) probably only see the headline "OAI solves famous hard math problem" and think "OAI models are really smart, better invest before they take all the jobs." If they don't claim the prize, then maybe they let Anthropic their mortal enemy claim it. Anthropic is already IPOing first. Can't let that happen.
Yeah as I write this there it's clear there is no dilemma. For a company whose secret motto is "do be evil" this is a super easy discussion.
- tescreal 8d agoTrusting vs. Intelligence (as generalities) are orthogonal.
- skavi 8d agonot really your point, but "If you're smart enough to solve this Navier-Stokes problem, you're smart enough to read a TOS" isn't really true. people are smart in very different ways.
- ComplexSystems 8d agoIf it's unethical, then there is reason to call it out as Tristan is doing. I see no reason to blame the victim.