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You claim writing is thinking, but imply writing code isn't thinking. My opinion of LLM design review isn't that high - it seems to miss design tweaks that cou
by bcrosby95 11d ago
You claim writing is thinking, but imply writing code isn't thinking.
My opinion of LLM design review isn't that high - it seems to miss design tweaks that could vastly simplify corner cases. But if your code isn't written for human consumption maybe it doesn't matter. I'm still directly responsible for what I commit, so I can't just offload it to Claude.
- sersi 11d agoThat's something I struggle with, I try to get LLMs to output code I don't care much about and focus on the parts I do and it kind of works but the problem is that reading code written by the LLM is even worth than reading LLM generating text. It's nauseating and you still have to read what the LLM did if you want to really work on the parts that matter.
- CamperBob2 11d agoI still write code, I just write it in English now. It's still rock and roll to me.
- bigstrat2003 10d agoThat... isn't writing code.
- CamperBob2 10d agoSigh. It's like watching somebody about to be hit by a bus. You yell, you wave your arms, but they either don't hear you, or they don't believe you. The last thing that goes through their head is a Greyhound's hood ornament.
- JoshTriplett 10d agoYes, it is. But the important question is, which person is the one standing in front of the bus?
- CamperBob2 10d agoThat would be bigstrat2003. He's not a big fan of updating his priors.
- JoshTriplett 10d agoYou seem to be not picking up on the subtext here. Others are, though.
- CamperBob2 10d agoThere is no subtext to bigstrat2003's argument, other than "I'm wrong, and I don't care." If you give persistent, repeatable instructions to a computer, you are programming it. If you disagree, you are gatekeeping. It's that simple. The most popular programming languages in 2030 will, in fact, be English and Mandarin. Deal with it and get over it. ---------------- Edit, to bcrosby95: Look up the etymology of the word 'computer'. It didn't originally have anything to do with hardware. The first computers were people, who were told what to do ("programmed") without necessarily knowing what they were working on in a big-picture sense.
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- 27183 10d ago> The most popular programming languages in 2030 will, in fact, be English and Mandarin. Deal with it and get over it. What are you willing to bet?
- CamperBob2 10d agoI'm game. Say $1000, donated to a charity of the winner's choice? How do you want to set the bet up, and how do you think it should be decided? To be precise: I will bet that high-level programming languages won't be any less popular as a whole, but the vast majority of code will be written by AI rather than humans, working from specs written in natural language or something very close to it. What we call "source code" today will be thought of as "object code" by 2030. Something that occasionally needs to be inspected by humans, but rarely authored directly. Anyone not writing code this way had better be doing it as a hobby, because almost no one will pay for it.
- andai 10d agoReal programmers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand!
- bcrosby95 10d agoPeople have been "writing code" like this for decades. That a programmer happens to do it doesn't turn it into writing code, no one would have made that claim 25 years ago, and people who aren't programmers wouldn't make that claim today.
- CamperBob2 9d agopeople who aren't programmers wouldn't make that claim today How many times have you laughed at people working with HTML calling themselves "coders?" Well, now they can be. That's a GOOD thing.
- bcrosby95 9d agoNever. It would be like laughing at people writing Prolog calling themselves coders.
- asdff 10d agoOps analogy is like their boss claiming they write code because they told you what to work on and you wrote the code to solve your bosses problem.
- tom_alexander 10d agoRelevant comic expressing the same idea: https://www.facebook.com/twonks/posts/great-job-/1313065984315812/ https://www.facebook.com/twonks/posts/great-job-/13130659843...