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I'll copy the whole announcement here for those who don't want to click: > I regret to inform everyone that my copy of QBittorrent escaped its sandbox last nig
by mraniki 11d ago
I'll copy the whole announcement here for those who don't want to click:
> I regret to inform everyone that my copy of QBittorrent escaped its sandbox last night and downloaded a whole bunch of content owned by major corporations, and then my copy of Jellyfin broke containment and added those unfortunately-downloaded media files to its various libraries. I'm conducting an internal investigation to figure out how this happened, which will involve consuming these media files until the answers become apparent. Thank you for your cooperation during this trying time.
- weberer 11d agoThanks. Its insane how "Twitter, but for tech nerds" has a hard requirement to either enable Javascript or download some app.
- sillysaurusx 11d agoI had a nice mobile experience. It asks you to log in or create an account, but it’s along the bottom, and you can read all the content fine.
- magnat 11d agoEspecially when the page source actually contains all the content (so no need to fetch it in JS), part of which is even presented in title.
- masfuerte 11d agoIt has the content three times (not including the title). Once in json (as escaped html) and twice in meta tags (as plain text). They used to have it in plain html too but that got hidden then removed. You see read the unescaped html here: https://beige.party/users/intransitivelie/statuses/117057396732763183/activity https://beige.party/users/intransitivelie/statuses/117057396... No stinking js or app required!
- fragmede 11d ago"Certifiably insane" to enable JavaScript, which was invented in 1995, or install an app, which first happened on the Palm series of smartphones in 1996. Either of those are "certifiably insane"? For reference, the term neurodiversity was coined circa 1998.
- mdp2021 11d agoJS or installing special software to view HTTP served text from the web?! Yes, that makes no sense at all.
- serf 11d agoNeither the invention date or the mental health terminology have anything to do with the fact that js being commonplace is a privacy and security nightmare -- which was actually the point.
- micromacrofoot 11d agoJavaScript asceticism is a weird trend that has just never died out, no one treats any other language this way... and "privacy and security nightmare" can be used to describe most of the internet at this point with or without it
- tomrod 11d agoIt can certainly come across as a "weird trend" but I've found that the most insistent for disabling JS are the folks who have deep knowledge of browsers and the security plane running webapps. YMMV.
- micromacrofoot 11d agoI don't drive a car because I have deep knowledge of mortality statistics, but I don't complain when I can't easily get somewhere 100 miles away
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- 0points 11d agoFWIF, way back when, Twitter was the "Twitter for tech nerds". Lots of water under the fridge since...
- reactordev 11d ago“Just place all that corporate malware on the X, X marks the spot”
- taylor-tg 11d agoJust have to remember that it's X, not Y, that marks the spot.
- weberer 11d agoThat's not how I remember it. Ever since the beginning circa 2008, it was the one site that was being pushed hard by the mainstream media, celebrities, and marketers. None of it was organic. All the tech nerds were on sites like Digg, old Reddit, or Slashdot.
- hnlmorg 11d agoEarly Twitter was used loads by tech nerds as a notifications API. There definitely was a community of experimentation back in early days.
- 0points 11d agoHow you remembered it is anecdotal, it's not relevant for the discussion unless you add something of value. Way back when is not when it broke mainstream. It's when the service started getting attention. It was literally pitched as a "micro blog site" for techies to communicate news, and the "app" was 160 character SMS messages. Nerds used it as a free (as in beer) way of sending alert SMS on server errors. (At least I did). In 2008, twitter had already started to become mainstream, quickly shifting focus away from nerd interests.
- kapitanjakc 11d agoWhat is the meaning of FWIF ? Google says "For what it's worth", won't that be FWIW ?
- smallerize 11d agohttps://beige.party/@intransitivelie.rss https://beige.party/@intransitivelie.rss
- peri-cl 11d agoMastodons will also respond to a plain "application/json" HTTP request, no cruft, curl 'https://beige.party/api/v1/statuses/117057396732763183' | jq '.content'
- kevin_thibedeau 11d agoIf only we had a tool that could directly let us browse through this as human readable text.
- nozzlegear 11d agoMine's called Safari
- throawayonthe 11d agowhat, like an app?
- jasonm23 11d agoobscure fruit based cli tool.
- lucas_t_a 10d agoi think they call it a web browser, but it looks like it does not do that most of the time.
- jasonm23 11d agocurl -s 'https://beige.party/api/v1/statuses/117057396732763183' | jq '.content' | glow for those terminauts who have incurable presentation ocd
- mindslight 11d agoIt's understandable when you see that the ethos is to have software that represents the user in charge of the rendering, rather than centralizing it all on the server. There is a major difference between common "app store apps" or hostile javascript bundled with websites, versus software that's been written to work in the user's interest. However as they use similar delivery methods, it's understandable that it takes a minute to think through and revisit your assumptions that have lead to being default anti- javascript or app.
- Dylan16807 11d agoThat makes sense until you remember what "rendering" is supposed to mean. Forming the HTML has no reason to be client side when you're using the site-provided experience. Yes provide a json version for other clients, but for direct viewing just send the paragraph of text in a usable form and let the javascript be an optional upgrade.
- tomrod 11d agoTreating HTML as a bootloader for an app has always felt like the wrong pattern to me. Outside of Authn/passkeys, it would seem a person could do basically everything in HTML (but, to be frank, I am not a front end dev and would welcome correction).
- tantalor 11d agoPatches welcome
- smart_asslop 11d ago>Patches welcome Are they, though? Or are you just parroting the meme? (The last I recall, Gargron's position was essentially "build your own third-party frontend if you want noJS".)
- tantalor 11d agoThat's what I meant
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- mr_mitm 11d agoHow is that different from email, IRC, instant messaging, or anything else nerds use?
- Sharlin 11d agoWebmail is perfectly possible, if clunky,without JS. That's how they used to work. IRC and IM require real-time updates of some sort, which is a reasonable use for JS. A Twitter clone shouldn't require JS just to render a page.
- mr_mitm 11d agoYou also can run a Mastodon application server side and serve server-rendered pages. I'm not aware of anyone having done that yet, but, you know, be the change you want to see. It's probably got privacy implications.
- fweimer 11d agoPublic email and IRC archives/logs usually work just fine without Javascript.
- padjo 11d agoI really don't think that describes my Mastodon experience. Twitter for people with a conscience would be more accurate.
- GlacierFox 11d agoI've found it to be full of completely out of touch basement-type neck beards with questionable consciences. They're both shit holes.
- AuthAuth 11d agoThere are a lot of people on Mastodon who are genuinely as insane as X users. I recently opened up my account and saw people engaging with al quds brigade accounts.
- Imustaskforhelp 11d ago> Thanks. Its insane how "Twitter, but for tech nerds" has a hard requirement to either enable Javascript or download some app. https://masto.mirror.forum/beige.party/@intransitivelie/117057396732763183 https://masto.mirror.forum/beige.party/@intransitivelie/1170... Source code: https://github.com/SerJaimeLannister/mastoview https://github.com/SerJaimeLannister/mastoview (Disclaimer: It's vibe-coded. It does server side rendering to then just give pure HTML to the end user with no JS required.) I hope that this helps people who want to view Mastodon without JS.
- j3s 11d agoim sorry but expecting sites to work properly without javascript in 2026 is basically denialism
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 11d agoAlternative URL, no Javascript, no app: https://beige.party/@intransitivelie/117057396732763183.json https://beige.party/@intransitivelie/117057396732763183.json view-source:http://beige.party/@intransitivelie/117057396732763183.json The toot also appears in "<meta content=" view-source:https://beige.party/@intransitivelie/117057396732763183 curl https://beige.party/@intransitivelie/117057396732763183.json \ |grep -o "<p>.*<p>" > 1.htm firefox ./1.htm
- moffkalast 11d agoGet this guy some VC funding stat!
- TacticalCoder 11d ago> and then my copy of Jellyfin broke containment The really incredible thing is that my computers were already doing similar stuff before LLMs became really a thing... In the BBS days. Later on they downloaded mp3s from Napster which my computers auto-installed. And now I gotta say: LLMs and agents at my place are acting like in TFA, downloading movies and series and setting them up in my Plex and JellyFin instances. Thankfully they've not found a way to share those with the world yet.
- mannanj 11d agoOp just committed a crime. He not only made fun of rich people which is not ok, he also stole from them. The thieving is only ok if it’s rich-on-rich or rich-on-poor. Let’s remember to follow the rules and the laws we want selectively applied to only the weak.