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Why would i use codefloe and not a more reputable non-profit provider like codeberg/disroot/framagit? It says it's community owned, but i only see one codefloe

Why would i use codefloe and not a more reputable non-profit provider like codeberg/disroot/framagit? It says it's community owned, but i only see one codefloe team member on the forums and a few people (like you). I didn't find any good community rules or pricing, any political statement about the mission, etc. The only thing i found deep in the comments is that it seems to be for people who don't want FLOSS? Also the pricing mentions mixing a non-profit and a for-profit for the best of both worlds, which as Mozilla has shown is a potentially tragic strategy. To be clear, i'm in favor of more non-profit hosts. But from reading the site i'm not convinced this one is actually for-profit, what the community stands for, and whether i'm the target audience.

jasonvorhe 12d ago
Haven't used Codefloe but at least they're not restricting what projects you can host with them. I don't see any preachy neo-Luddite "don't use AI" or "no private repos pls" messaging on their site.
- xigoi 11d ago
  Apparently, not wanting to spend a huge amount of resources on storing slop makes a free hosting service “neo-Luddite”.
jeremyjh 12d ago
Codeberg does not permit personal repos, it is strictly for open source project communities. Also, it is painfully slow if you are working in a repo of any size. Codefloe is professionally hosted on a robust platform - it could probably support about 10x the volume Codeberg has currently with good performance. I have not used the other options you mentioned but I've long admired what Framasoft is doing. I'm not sure where you'd get the idea that Codefloe is for people who don't want FOSS. There are hundreds of open source repos. There are also a lot of personal projects, and probably some commercial ones as well. What they don't want, is an ideology that restricts the types of projects hosted there. Its available for all software projects. Most of their user base are just using the service - and that is really the point. Similar to how most users on Lichess are there to play chess, not to talk about hosting chess servers. They are owned by a commercial entity, devXY but they are not profit seeking. They need donations to cover costs but are willing to give that time to build up. There are some regular donors[1], but they are not yet covering all costs [2]. They publish a report every quarter where you can see usage figures. https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/reports/2026-Q2/quarterly_report.md https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo... They also publish detailed cost analytics and donations: [2] https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/reports/costs/cost_summary.md https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo... [1] https://en.liberapay.com/codefloe/ https://en.liberapay.com/codefloe/
- cxr 12d ago
  The amount of Codeberg FUD one can encounter on HN is unreal. I'm starting to question whether there's an organized effort behind it. Both personal and private repos are explicitly permitted in the Codeberg TOS: > Private repositories[…] allowed for really small & personal stuff like your journal, config files, ideas or notes, but explicitly not as a personal cloud or media storage.
  - jasonvorhe 12d ago
    As if there wasn't a massive amount of nuance between "you may keep your dotfiles private but don't upload your photo library". If their rules read this arbitrary, I wouldn't trust them to host any of my stuff, especially considering that you always have to hope they don't change their rules any further. Assume you did some local LLM stuff in June that worked with a 200MB set of various jpegs and you wanted to keep it private: Is this still legit in September 2026? I wouldn't rely on it.
    - embedding-shape 12d ago
      > , I wouldn't trust them to host any of my stuff, especially considering that you always have to hope they don't change their rules any further. Yeah, I think this is a win-win for both parties. You strike me as someone who would "ride along the lines of the terms of service" basically, and you'll see anything not explicitly forbidden as being allowed essentially. While Codeberg is a project driven by humans, with human reactions to what's happening. If you're not comfortable with rules not being 100% defined, and requiring a humans value judgement to be had to figure out if the rule is broken or not, I don't think Codeberg is for you. The rest of us, who are OK with humans making decisions rather than just going by what's written in rules, are fine with this, because we know our private repositories won't be deleted. And if they are, you'll be able to speak with a human to explain, and if your intention is fine and good, they'll be OK with it. But if you try to argue about some "That wasn't explicitly stated", then yeah, they'll probably get tired of you quickly. Think your participating in your local user group vs some corporate/government forum, the rules will be enforced differently.

jasonvorhe 12d ago

Haven't used Codefloe but at least they're not restricting what projects you can host with them. I don't see any preachy neo-Luddite "don't use AI" or "no private repos pls" messaging on their site.

xigoi 11d ago
Apparently, not wanting to spend a huge amount of resources on storing slop makes a free hosting service “neo-Luddite”.

jeremyjh 12d ago

Codeberg does not permit personal repos, it is strictly for open source project communities. Also, it is painfully slow if you are working in a repo of any size. Codefloe is professionally hosted on a robust platform - it could probably support about 10x the volume Codeberg has currently with good performance. I have not used the other options you mentioned but I've long admired what Framasoft is doing. I'm not sure where you'd get the idea that Codefloe is for people who don't want FOSS. There are hundreds of open source repos. There are also a lot of personal projects, and probably some commercial ones as well. What they don't want, is an ideology that restricts the types of projects hosted there. Its available for all software projects. Most of their user base are just using the service - and that is really the point. Similar to how most users on Lichess are there to play chess, not to talk about hosting chess servers. They are owned by a commercial entity, devXY but they are not profit seeking. They need donations to cover costs but are willing to give that time to build up. There are some regular donors[1], but they are not yet covering all costs [2]. They publish a report every quarter where you can see usage figures. https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/reports/2026-Q2/quarterly_report.md https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo... They also publish detailed cost analytics and donations: [2] https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/reports/costs/cost_summary.md https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo... [1] https://en.liberapay.com/codefloe/ https://en.liberapay.com/codefloe/

cxr 12d ago
The amount of Codeberg FUD one can encounter on HN is unreal. I'm starting to question whether there's an organized effort behind it. Both personal and private repos are explicitly permitted in the Codeberg TOS: > Private repositories[…] allowed for really small & personal stuff like your journal, config files, ideas or notes, but explicitly not as a personal cloud or media storage.
- jasonvorhe 12d ago
  As if there wasn't a massive amount of nuance between "you may keep your dotfiles private but don't upload your photo library". If their rules read this arbitrary, I wouldn't trust them to host any of my stuff, especially considering that you always have to hope they don't change their rules any further. Assume you did some local LLM stuff in June that worked with a 200MB set of various jpegs and you wanted to keep it private: Is this still legit in September 2026? I wouldn't rely on it.
  - embedding-shape 12d ago
    > , I wouldn't trust them to host any of my stuff, especially considering that you always have to hope they don't change their rules any further. Yeah, I think this is a win-win for both parties. You strike me as someone who would "ride along the lines of the terms of service" basically, and you'll see anything not explicitly forbidden as being allowed essentially. While Codeberg is a project driven by humans, with human reactions to what's happening. If you're not comfortable with rules not being 100% defined, and requiring a humans value judgement to be had to figure out if the rule is broken or not, I don't think Codeberg is for you. The rest of us, who are OK with humans making decisions rather than just going by what's written in rules, are fine with this, because we know our private repositories won't be deleted. And if they are, you'll be able to speak with a human to explain, and if your intention is fine and good, they'll be OK with it. But if you try to argue about some "That wasn't explicitly stated", then yeah, they'll probably get tired of you quickly. Think your participating in your local user group vs some corporate/government forum, the rules will be enforced differently.