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I wasn't able to beat the bot wall, but I assume story close to [1] The thing of it is I'm aware of something very much the same - heat related kidney damage -

I wasn't able to beat the bot wall, but I assume story close to [1] The thing of it is I'm aware of something very much the same - heat related kidney damage - something when I got a casual job with construction back in 2005, within the first couple of weeks I was warned rather pointedly by another worker who'd spent most of his working life around concreting and construction, of the dangers of long hours spend slouched over working on the concrete slabs. He had known many who'd got very ill despite following good hydration protocols [2], and knew working in the heat out on the slab came with this real risk. I being a new chum was dressed in heavy full length clothing, he generally wore cooler clothing - light shorts and short sleeved shirt which wasn't protocol for the job. [1] https://www.linkedin.com/posts/davereddick_mysterious-kidney-disease-has-arrived-activity-7501234767816757248-LVvE https://www.linkedin.com/posts/davereddick_mysterious-kidney... [2] Most labouring job sites I've been at in the 00s at least always had a very prominent chart regarding urine colour and the dangers of dehydration, and heat stroke. As such most workers at various sites I've worked at being much more aware of urine colour regarding dehydration than most of the medical staff I encountered at the hospital my Mum died in. Edit: Forgot to mention my locale is North Queensland Australia - it gets fairly hot though summers.

paulcole 14d ago
> I wasn't able to beat the bot wall Most people have access to at least one 16-digit code that will do the trick.
- anenefan 14d ago
  Well what that 16 digit code might be I am unaware. I used to be able to unpick java based stuff to bypass walls but these days I really just don't try too hard, typically a site these days isn't a single site but uses other external services - I have many such services denied for scraping PII needlessly. I could try a different browser - but in the time I wait for the site to decide if I'm not a bot, if I'm that invested, I've already done a quick search of topic heading and ...
  - Terr_ 14d ago
    > Well what that 16 digit code might be I am unaware. They're probably talking about buying a subscription with a credit card, but I'm less certain where it lies on the shared-joke versus snide-insult spectrum. That said, not all are 16 digits. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_card_number#Issuer_identification_number_(IIN) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_card_number#Issuer_ide...
    - anenefan 14d ago
      Hmmm well that's more subscription orientated but if so the statement needed a bit of context like a little wink afterwards. So I tried a newer chrome variant browser and it loaded ... and then tried the old firefox browser to recall if the bot protection was related to cloudflare and ... it opened without issue.
- doc_ick 14d ago
  I don’t have access to a 16-digit code, can you share?
wlesieutre 14d ago
Can’t help that the state government is actively undermining local protections for workers dealing with heat dangers https://www.texastribune.org/2023/06/16/texas-heat-wave-water-break-construction-workers/ https://www.texastribune.org/2023/06/16/texas-heat-wave-wate...
- spiderfarmer 14d ago
  The government in the US isn’t for the people.
  - N_Lens 14d ago
    The government in the US is for people (corporations).
  - sneak 14d ago
    No government in any place is for the people that aren’t the people that comprise the government. They will, of course, all tell you otherwise.
    - ra 14d ago
      except maybe Japan?
    - kakacik 14d ago
      Switzerland? Singapore? Japan? Bhutan? Islands of prosperity in general.
      - TitaRusell 14d ago
        No country started out as an island of prosperity. They got there through hard work, sensible decision making and yes a little luck. When in the 16th century all of Europe got involved in religious wars a Dutch leader decided that religion was a personal choice. This was not magic everyone could have come to this conclusion. But noone did.
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xbmcuser 14d ago
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newtwentysix 14d ago
p_wall byp_ss link: https://archive.ph/h66Jg https://archive.ph/h66Jg I am not sure whether any recent restrictions against this site here.
conductr 14d ago
I’m in Texas and am around construction. The Mexican dudes can go all day with very little water. They tease my for my hydration and I’m not working half as hard as them. Then I see the urine they leave behind (usually left in drink bottles) and it makes my kidneys hurt. Also if I don’t hydrate enough in this heat abd am really working then my kidneys literally hurt. It’s my reminder to stop and take a drink. I’ve been working outside a lot this summer and notice it’s much easier to get to that point when it’s over 105F. This summer has been a hot one even for Texas. Anyways, there’s a cultural machismo amongst the Hispanic laborers that hydration is for putos. They do this with gloves too. I’ll offer gloves when handling materials and they always laugh and say no. Like their calluses hands are their resume. I have soft doctor like hands with no calluses so I do nothing without gloves.
- aaron695 14d ago
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- salawat 14d ago
  Take care of yourself. Wear PPE, do your job right, work smarter, not harder. Your body will thank you in the long run. And for the love of all that is holy, invest in some thermal PPE. You will be amazed how deleterious extreme heat (104+) is to your mental acuity. This is not anecdata, it is fact. Phase Change Materials are the latest I've heard of in the field, and most operations don't seem to spring for them for employees. Do yourself the courtesy of getting some and set up your own safety program. If your boss and coworkers laugh at you, screw em'. You'll pay off in the long run by catching things everyone else is too heat drunk to have noticed. https://www.mscdirect.com/knowledge-center/articles/cooling-technology-in-ppe https://www.mscdirect.com/knowledge-center/articles/cooling-... Your bosses will never have as much of a stake in you as you do. Be your own advocate.
  - conductr 14d ago
    I tend to agree. It’s a personal safety thing that each person should do what’s best for them. Most guys are functionally their own boss anyway as most are sub contractors or seasonal help. I’ve worked closely with hundreds of these guys for a span of about 25 years now. Have made some great friends but none long term. They travel or on the move and their phone numbers usually never last more than a few months or a year. Probably many of them are not here legally. But, having observed things like this almost from an anthropological standpoint, I often wonder what their lifespans are. When you work that hard and don’t manage simple things like hydration how long do they really have? My guess is it skews much less than median life expectancy.
gdevenyi 14d ago
https://archive.ph/h66Jg https://archive.ph/h66Jg

paulcole 14d ago

> I wasn't able to beat the bot wall Most people have access to at least one 16-digit code that will do the trick.

anenefan 14d ago
Well what that 16 digit code might be I am unaware. I used to be able to unpick java based stuff to bypass walls but these days I really just don't try too hard, typically a site these days isn't a single site but uses other external services - I have many such services denied for scraping PII needlessly. I could try a different browser - but in the time I wait for the site to decide if I'm not a bot, if I'm that invested, I've already done a quick search of topic heading and ...
- Terr_ 14d ago
  > Well what that 16 digit code might be I am unaware. They're probably talking about buying a subscription with a credit card, but I'm less certain where it lies on the shared-joke versus snide-insult spectrum. That said, not all are 16 digits. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_card_number#Issuer_identification_number_(IIN) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_card_number#Issuer_ide...
  - anenefan 14d ago
    Hmmm well that's more subscription orientated but if so the statement needed a bit of context like a little wink afterwards. So I tried a newer chrome variant browser and it loaded ... and then tried the old firefox browser to recall if the bot protection was related to cloudflare and ... it opened without issue.
doc_ick 14d ago
I don’t have access to a 16-digit code, can you share?

wlesieutre 14d ago

Can’t help that the state government is actively undermining local protections for workers dealing with heat dangers https://www.texastribune.org/2023/06/16/texas-heat-wave-water-break-construction-workers/ https://www.texastribune.org/2023/06/16/texas-heat-wave-wate...

spiderfarmer 14d ago
The government in the US isn’t for the people.
- N_Lens 14d ago
  The government in the US is for people (corporations).
- sneak 14d ago
  No government in any place is for the people that aren’t the people that comprise the government. They will, of course, all tell you otherwise.
  - ra 14d ago
    except maybe Japan?
  - kakacik 14d ago
    Switzerland? Singapore? Japan? Bhutan? Islands of prosperity in general.
    - TitaRusell 14d ago
      No country started out as an island of prosperity. They got there through hard work, sensible decision making and yes a little luck. When in the 16th century all of Europe got involved in religious wars a Dutch leader decided that religion was a personal choice. This was not magic everyone could have come to this conclusion. But noone did.
  - 14d ago

xbmcuser 14d ago

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newtwentysix 14d ago

p_wall byp_ss link: https://archive.ph/h66Jg https://archive.ph/h66Jg I am not sure whether any recent restrictions against this site here.

conductr 14d ago

I’m in Texas and am around construction. The Mexican dudes can go all day with very little water. They tease my for my hydration and I’m not working half as hard as them. Then I see the urine they leave behind (usually left in drink bottles) and it makes my kidneys hurt. Also if I don’t hydrate enough in this heat abd am really working then my kidneys literally hurt. It’s my reminder to stop and take a drink. I’ve been working outside a lot this summer and notice it’s much easier to get to that point when it’s over 105F. This summer has been a hot one even for Texas. Anyways, there’s a cultural machismo amongst the Hispanic laborers that hydration is for putos. They do this with gloves too. I’ll offer gloves when handling materials and they always laugh and say no. Like their calluses hands are their resume. I have soft doctor like hands with no calluses so I do nothing without gloves.

aaron695 14d ago
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salawat 14d ago
Take care of yourself. Wear PPE, do your job right, work smarter, not harder. Your body will thank you in the long run. And for the love of all that is holy, invest in some thermal PPE. You will be amazed how deleterious extreme heat (104+) is to your mental acuity. This is not anecdata, it is fact. Phase Change Materials are the latest I've heard of in the field, and most operations don't seem to spring for them for employees. Do yourself the courtesy of getting some and set up your own safety program. If your boss and coworkers laugh at you, screw em'. You'll pay off in the long run by catching things everyone else is too heat drunk to have noticed. https://www.mscdirect.com/knowledge-center/articles/cooling-technology-in-ppe https://www.mscdirect.com/knowledge-center/articles/cooling-... Your bosses will never have as much of a stake in you as you do. Be your own advocate.
- conductr 14d ago
  I tend to agree. It’s a personal safety thing that each person should do what’s best for them. Most guys are functionally their own boss anyway as most are sub contractors or seasonal help. I’ve worked closely with hundreds of these guys for a span of about 25 years now. Have made some great friends but none long term. They travel or on the move and their phone numbers usually never last more than a few months or a year. Probably many of them are not here legally. But, having observed things like this almost from an anthropological standpoint, I often wonder what their lifespans are. When you work that hard and don’t manage simple things like hydration how long do they really have? My guess is it skews much less than median life expectancy.

gdevenyi 14d ago

https://archive.ph/h66Jg https://archive.ph/h66Jg