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I think they are betting that Astra will be impossible to ignore.

SoftTalker 19d ago
For three months, until the next SOTA model drops. And with each improved model, the number of people who actually need it declines.
- ronsor 19d ago
  Exactly. Astra will likely get its Mythos moment, and then another Chinese lab releases its equivalent three months later while Anthropic releases a newer, better model.
  - dakolli 19d ago
    There's a reason why most businesses don't hire PhDs, they dont need it. PhDs are cheap in many countries, arguably more affordable than a full time mythos lvl agent, yet businesses in India still don't hire 30k a year PhDs to run their businesses. Its simply not necessary. AI labs have lost the plot from a business perspective. If chasing ASI is the goal, that also seems stupid.. Putting all of your customers out of business with ASI doesn't really lead to great outcomes either. They're commodity fetishism maxxing.
    - Game_Ender 19d ago
      The higher level models are designed to tackle bigger problems with less oversight and more accuracy. It’s about entirely changing how you use them to mirror an employee you can trust. A truly good team members everyone trusts to just get things done at high quality with minimal direction for days or weeks. That is the goal.
      - dakolli 18d ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism
bentt 19d ago
I'd need to have a problem I couldn't solve with current models for my eyes to wander.
- znnajdla 19d ago
  Yeah I haven’t had a problem yet which was too difficult for Fable to solve. I do have problems which Sol does not do well on. But if I could get Fable-level intelligence faster/cheaper and less restricted, that’s all I need.
  - cheeze 19d ago
    Fable is great minus it's annoying writing style. It's nowhere near as bad as Opus 5 but it's very "AI trope-y" even with heavy steering. I can spot the writing immediately.
    - muddi900 18d ago
      Asking your models to follow the google developer guidelines is angood way to get good responses from them. https://developers.google.com/style/highlights https://developers.google.com/style/highlights
- akmarinov 19d ago
  What if it’s cheaper too?
- dakolli 19d ago
  Yeah not sure why everyone thinks they need a PhD lvl assitant to build their slop SaaS when an open source model that is 100x cheaper, and 3x faster and arguably still "PhD" level assitant could also build their slop SaaS.
- hand2note 17d ago
  It like saying before the ai era that you don’t have a problem you can’t solve without ai

For three months, until the next SOTA model drops. And with each improved model, the number of people who actually need it declines.

ronsor 19d ago
Exactly. Astra will likely get its Mythos moment, and then another Chinese lab releases its equivalent three months later while Anthropic releases a newer, better model.
- dakolli 19d ago
  There's a reason why most businesses don't hire PhDs, they dont need it. PhDs are cheap in many countries, arguably more affordable than a full time mythos lvl agent, yet businesses in India still don't hire 30k a year PhDs to run their businesses. Its simply not necessary. AI labs have lost the plot from a business perspective. If chasing ASI is the goal, that also seems stupid.. Putting all of your customers out of business with ASI doesn't really lead to great outcomes either. They're commodity fetishism maxxing.
  - Game_Ender 19d ago
    The higher level models are designed to tackle bigger problems with less oversight and more accuracy. It’s about entirely changing how you use them to mirror an employee you can trust. A truly good team members everyone trusts to just get things done at high quality with minimal direction for days or weeks. That is the goal.
    - dakolli 18d ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism

bentt 19d ago

I'd need to have a problem I couldn't solve with current models for my eyes to wander.

znnajdla 19d ago
Yeah I haven’t had a problem yet which was too difficult for Fable to solve. I do have problems which Sol does not do well on. But if I could get Fable-level intelligence faster/cheaper and less restricted, that’s all I need.
- cheeze 19d ago
  Fable is great minus it's annoying writing style. It's nowhere near as bad as Opus 5 but it's very "AI trope-y" even with heavy steering. I can spot the writing immediately.
  - muddi900 18d ago
    Asking your models to follow the google developer guidelines is angood way to get good responses from them. https://developers.google.com/style/highlights https://developers.google.com/style/highlights
akmarinov 19d ago
What if it’s cheaper too?
dakolli 19d ago
Yeah not sure why everyone thinks they need a PhD lvl assitant to build their slop SaaS when an open source model that is 100x cheaper, and 3x faster and arguably still "PhD" level assitant could also build their slop SaaS.
hand2note 17d ago
It like saying before the ai era that you don’t have a problem you can’t solve without ai