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There is also an article on we will free us [1] if you want to dive deeper into that rabbit hole. [1] https://www.wewillfreeus.org/the-server-called-paranoia-d

by exiguus 19d ago

There is also an article on we will free us [1] if you want to dive deeper into that rabbit hole. [1] https://www.wewillfreeus.org/the-server-called-paranoia-defend-autistici-inventati-before-september-25/ https://www.wewillfreeus.org/the-server-called-paranoia-defe...

AndrewKemendo 19d ago
Seems like this should be a/the top level link
badsectoracula 19d ago
The article is quite long, but these two give a brief idea of what is going on: a) According to that article, what it seems they are about: > Its manifesto describes the project in explicitly political terms. A/I is antifascist, anti-capitalist and antimilitarist. It promotes free software, encryption, pseudonymity and the independent circulation of knowledge and cultural work. It reserves its limited, volunteer-run resources for people and projects broadly compatible with those principles rather than businesses, political parties, organized religions or institutions already possessing the means to make themselves heard. b) And the issue U.S. has with them: > The United States alleges that A/I supplies specialized digital architecture, encrypted communications and hosting to antifascist groups and other radical movements, including organizations already designated by the United States.
- nonethewiser 19d ago
  [flagged]
  - hexator 19d ago
    Is there any indication or proof that they are providing services to PKK? Equating supporting protest organizers in the west with supporting an armed terrorist group is laughable and dangerous.
    - 32aGh 19d ago
      If you search for "noblogs pkk" you find a handful, literally less than 10, of pro PKK links, all of which have been taken down. Could have been a false flag to discredit antifa. What happened to safe harbor?
      - hexator 19d ago
        Having "pro-PKK views" (or for other groups designated as terrorists for that matter) is not against the law in the US as that is a first amendment right (as long as that speech is not support).
        inigyou 18d ago
        The first amendment only applies to US citizens and residents. The US is allowed to stifle the speech of anyone else.
- OKRainbowKid 19d ago
  So anti-fascism ist deemed an extreme movement by the US government? What does that say about them?
  - xienze 19d ago
    [flagged]
    - inigyou 19d ago
      Anti-fascist isn't a group, it's an adjective.
    - mdp2021 19d ago
      Do review your logic. Now since "potential" is not a crime, list the acts that merit the label.
      - xienze 19d ago
        [flagged]
        kennywinker 19d ago
        You are ok with 7 people getting life sentences because one person fired a gun in the middle of absolute chaos with no evidence the shot was premeditated or planned by the group? And surely those swastika carriers are getting similar sentences... right? Storm the capital to overthrow an election, get a pardon. Photocopy an anti-ice zine, get life in prison. Makes sense.
    - nielsbot 19d ago
      define terrorism in this context
      - xdennis 19d ago
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- OCASMv2 19d ago
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  - Arainach 19d ago
    Not at all. The Republican party loves to throw both labels at anything it doesn't like, but most people who are against fascism are not communists.
    - OCASMv2 19d ago
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      - sapphicsnail 19d ago
        The only people who say this are people who don't actually know anyone who is antifascist. Hell, most of the people I've met who strait up identify as antifa are probably closer to democratic socialist than communist and they tend to be pretty dweeby.
        OCASMv2 19d ago
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      - catlifeonmars 19d ago
        Doesn’t that just mean against fascism?
        OCASMv2 19d ago
        [flagged]
  - isodev 19d ago
    No, it doesn't. That there are different words for it should be a hint it's different things.
aftbit 19d ago
>[The US State Dept's] examples include alleged railway and pipeline sabotage in Europe, attacks on energy infrastructure, Rose City Antifa, resistance to Atlanta’s proposed police-training center, Jane’s Revenge and publications carrying statements attributed to armed organizations. At least one of these things is not like the others. Why are peaceful protests against "Cop City" (Atlanta's proposed police-training center) lumped in with violent attacks on infrastructure? This isn't the first time either - Samuel Tunick, the man who was charged with destruction of evidence for giving his duress pin to the CBP agents, was being investigated for his connection to the Cop City protests.[1] And as others have said, what does it say about the current US admin that they are designating "anti-fascist" groups as terrorists? I will say, at least unlike Cop City protests afaik, Rose City Antifa seems willing to use violence to accomplish their goals.[2] [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/23/cop-city-protester-phone https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/23/cop-city-pro... [2]: https://rosecityantifa.org/articles/statment-on-strategy-and-tactics-for-june-4th-rally/ https://rosecityantifa.org/articles/statment-on-strategy-and...
- undeveloper 19d ago
  > violent attacks > on energy infrastructure that's not violence
  - veeti 19d ago
    When it's -30c outside and your house hasn't had heating for days, you might disagree.
    - inigyou 18d ago
      Is it violence if the power company disconnects you for non-payment, too?
  - fleroviumna 19d ago
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  - aftbit 17d ago

by exiguus 19d ago

AndrewKemendo 19d ago

Seems like this should be a/the top level link

badsectoracula 19d ago

The article is quite long, but these two give a brief idea of what is going on: a) According to that article, what it seems they are about: > Its manifesto describes the project in explicitly political terms. A/I is antifascist, anti-capitalist and antimilitarist. It promotes free software, encryption, pseudonymity and the independent circulation of knowledge and cultural work. It reserves its limited, volunteer-run resources for people and projects broadly compatible with those principles rather than businesses, political parties, organized religions or institutions already possessing the means to make themselves heard. b) And the issue U.S. has with them: > The United States alleges that A/I supplies specialized digital architecture, encrypted communications and hosting to antifascist groups and other radical movements, including organizations already designated by the United States.

nonethewiser 19d ago
[flagged]
- hexator 19d ago
  Is there any indication or proof that they are providing services to PKK? Equating supporting protest organizers in the west with supporting an armed terrorist group is laughable and dangerous.
  - 32aGh 19d ago
    If you search for "noblogs pkk" you find a handful, literally less than 10, of pro PKK links, all of which have been taken down. Could have been a false flag to discredit antifa. What happened to safe harbor?
    - hexator 19d ago
      Having "pro-PKK views" (or for other groups designated as terrorists for that matter) is not against the law in the US as that is a first amendment right (as long as that speech is not support).
      - inigyou 18d ago
        The first amendment only applies to US citizens and residents. The US is allowed to stifle the speech of anyone else.
OKRainbowKid 19d ago
So anti-fascism ist deemed an extreme movement by the US government? What does that say about them?
- xienze 19d ago
  [flagged]
  - inigyou 19d ago
    Anti-fascist isn't a group, it's an adjective.
  - mdp2021 19d ago
    Do review your logic. Now since "potential" is not a crime, list the acts that merit the label.
    - xienze 19d ago
      [flagged]
      - kennywinker 19d ago
        You are ok with 7 people getting life sentences because one person fired a gun in the middle of absolute chaos with no evidence the shot was premeditated or planned by the group? And surely those swastika carriers are getting similar sentences... right? Storm the capital to overthrow an election, get a pardon. Photocopy an anti-ice zine, get life in prison. Makes sense.
  - nielsbot 19d ago
    define terrorism in this context
    - xdennis 19d ago
      [flagged]
OCASMv2 19d ago
[flagged]
- Arainach 19d ago
  Not at all. The Republican party loves to throw both labels at anything it doesn't like, but most people who are against fascism are not communists.
  - OCASMv2 19d ago
    [flagged]
    - sapphicsnail 19d ago
      The only people who say this are people who don't actually know anyone who is antifascist. Hell, most of the people I've met who strait up identify as antifa are probably closer to democratic socialist than communist and they tend to be pretty dweeby.
      - OCASMv2 19d ago
        [flagged]
    - catlifeonmars 19d ago
      Doesn’t that just mean against fascism?
      - OCASMv2 19d ago
        [flagged]
- isodev 19d ago
  No, it doesn't. That there are different words for it should be a hint it's different things.

aftbit 19d ago

>[The US State Dept's] examples include alleged railway and pipeline sabotage in Europe, attacks on energy infrastructure, Rose City Antifa, resistance to Atlanta’s proposed police-training center, Jane’s Revenge and publications carrying statements attributed to armed organizations. At least one of these things is not like the others. Why are peaceful protests against "Cop City" (Atlanta's proposed police-training center) lumped in with violent attacks on infrastructure? This isn't the first time either - Samuel Tunick, the man who was charged with destruction of evidence for giving his duress pin to the CBP agents, was being investigated for his connection to the Cop City protests.[1] And as others have said, what does it say about the current US admin that they are designating "anti-fascist" groups as terrorists? I will say, at least unlike Cop City protests afaik, Rose City Antifa seems willing to use violence to accomplish their goals.[2] [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/23/cop-city-protester-phone https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/23/cop-city-pro... [2]: https://rosecityantifa.org/articles/statment-on-strategy-and-tactics-for-june-4th-rally/ https://rosecityantifa.org/articles/statment-on-strategy-and...

undeveloper 19d ago
> violent attacks > on energy infrastructure that's not violence
- veeti 19d ago
  When it's -30c outside and your house hasn't had heating for days, you might disagree.
  - inigyou 18d ago
    Is it violence if the power company disconnects you for non-payment, too?
- fleroviumna 19d ago
  [dead]
- aftbit 17d ago