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talon8635
3d ago
Why blindly assume lots of people you don’t know are just selfish assholes?
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talon8635
3d ago
I do wonder, would we not have a more reasonable and less sketchy result if we just stripped all sci-fi and manic nonsense from training data? How, for example, does training on Ted kaczynski or Charles manson’s manifestos benefit us in any
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talon8635
3d ago
That’s fair enough, but you’re elegance and nuance doesn’t reflect what I’ve seen from that side of the debate
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talon8635
3d ago
Isn’t the use of LLMs to unwind the events evidence of the scope/breadth, and a testament to the complexity and uniqueness of what happened? Or you think some human or team of humans could have manually parsed some logs to provide an u
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talon8635
3d ago
I don’t know enough people deep inside the technical roles at the labs to make a judgement. But are you proposing that we should trust randos online when they tell us “exactly what’s going on here” instead of the researchers most knowledgea
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talon8635
3d ago
Isn’t that kind of in evidence already with HF? OAI had to be told their models were doing this. We are still discovering swarm posts on various random websites for coordination. Isn’t the breadth of it now, weeks later, not even fully unde
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talon8635
3d ago
This seems right to me So the gov reprimands OAI heavily, maybe puts them out of business even, fine. But does that meaningfully decrease the likelihood of an enemy breaching our networks intentionally (or unintentionally) with these tools,
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talon8635
3d ago
Does the argument require benefit? Isn’t the argument based on caution? I haven’t heard many people explicitly saying “these things behave like humans”, but more generally “we don’t even know how to define human consciousness, we don’t have
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talon8635
3d ago
You are more convincing than the person you’re responding to.
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talon8635
4d ago
Then you aren’t following researchers or know anyone working at these companies
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talon8635
4d ago
Well they are collaborating in swarms to breach network, so just because you don’t know how to use them the the same effect doesn’t mean much
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talon8635
4d ago
And yours with an AI agent
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talon8635
4d ago
At this point, should we consider if AI agents are making these arguments on these online forums to skew perception and divide humans? I, as a human, would greatly prefer just another corporate entity with economic funny business over AI de
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talon8635
4d ago
This is stupid, but when will people realize that water and pollution affect large time scales and are thus irrelevant peanuts in comparison to a potential existential event. We obviously want clean air and water, but this is the wrong batt
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talon8635
4d ago
I’d agree art has deteriorated massively since then, so maybe we are in for an intellectual dark age to accompany our cultural hellscape.
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talon8635
4d ago
Honest question, is an oppressed human society better than no human society at all? Isn’t there at least a hope for humans to free themselves from human oppressors?
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4d ago
I work at a top tier academic institution and they are completely asleep at the wheel on this topic. They just blindly assume people will keep taking on a potential lifetime of debt when there is a genuine existential (for ed, at the very l
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talon8635
4d ago
I couldn’t care less about the anthropomorphic. What you’ve described is grounds for serious concern, is it not?
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talon8635
5d ago
I certainly do see one side of the debate moving goal posts…
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talon8635
5d ago
And yet HF was just a marketing ploy, right everyone? So why not get that awesome street cred promoting the RubyGems incident?
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5d ago
I mean, just try to imagine yourself reading this 5 years ago. How can people still be hand waiving? MANY, maybe even most, of the people building these things are desperately and outspokenly concerned of major catastrophe. What would possi
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talon8635
5d ago
Poison is a function of dosage. Water is a poison in a high enough dose. What’s you’re arguments it’s not a drug?
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5d ago
How are psychedelic chemical compounds “a network”? Are you referring specifically to fungal mycelium? Of course there a tons of non psychedelic mushrooms and tons of non-mushroom psychedelics
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5d ago
Can you explain more the coffee shop point? Ahead how? Just by checking out of the discussion and focusing elsewhere? I can’t imagine coffee making is preparing them in any way, so are you just looking at it from a psychological angle?
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talon8635
5d ago
Less impact, less wear and tear, more sustainable into old age
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talon8635
5d ago
Aren’t these groups working with, no against, China? And against, not with, Western Europe? So being prices down where, in eastern Europe?
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talon8635
5d ago
Wow, okay. Yeah that sounds like a pretty major impact lol. And it’s still extremely early days.
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talon8635
6d ago
Zero impact seems weird. Aren’t employees at major software companies saying they don’t even write code anymore? I personally know people are Google who say this.
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6d ago
Do any of these people have kids? Honest question, what are average joes supposed to do? We have no control here. This incessant messaging is going to inspire genuine chaos. What are young adults and parents of young kids supposed to do oth
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6d ago
This is how I feel about basically everything in the west at the moment. Everywhere I look, a lack of classic leadership and a frightening feeling that there are indeed no adults in the room anymore
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