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Afterglow: Run classic After Dark screen savers on modern macOS
- pogue 22d agoI need this for Windows. The After Dark screensavers are on the internet archive, but obviously they look and run like crap since they're made for Windows 3.x to maybe 95/98.
- netsharc 22d agoAFAIK there are a lot of Javascript implementations, e.g.: https://www.bryanbraun.com/after-dark-css/ https://www.bryanbraun.com/after-dark-css/
- pogue 22d agoI appreciate the link, but as far as using it aa a screen saver, that's not what I'm looking for. I would think if this mac After Dark project is open source, the assets would be available to use in other software.
- netsharc 21d agoI googled "web page as screensaver", saw results for Windows. But I get the impression you want a ready-made solution for you, not do your own plumbing...
- pogue 21d agoThat would be great, of course. I have found a ready made Flying Toaster screensaver floating around and used that. But, I figured if someone had done it for Mac, surely there'd be a Windows version out there.
- xattt 22d agoIf After Dark was made today, would the toast/toasters have been photorealistic or some Material-design take on toast?
- Someone 22d agoPhotorealistic 3D models, ray traced, using a LLM reading your camera feed to determine where to put light sources in the modeled world.
- tonyedgecombe 21d agoBut they would stutter, take ten minutes to launch and be a 25gb download.
- MrDrMcCoy 21d agoPerfectly acceptable by modern quality standards.
- dylan604 22d ago"You can also browse and install software releases directly from the Internet Archive without leaving the app. " That's a fine line being walked there. If they are worried about rights issues and not including the bundles, this seems like a risky FU by building this feature in directly. The part about using bundles you may have without asking questions of origin is fine. Otherwise, why not just include the bundles?
- jedberg 22d agoThis is pretty well trod legally. By the user taking a specific action, it makes the user responsible. Comma.ai uses the same technique. Technically their self driving hardware comes with no software. You have to click a button and point it at their GitHub to get the software on it, but it's automatic after that.
- CaliforniaKarl 22d agoI forget, doesn't Audacity also have you do this, if you want to be able to export projects as MP3?
- dylan604 22d agoyes, although the I recently tried doing this on a cloud Ubuntu instance, and it refused to see the .so file
- schoen 22d agoWe lost a Supreme Court case in 2005 on "inducement liability" (not a familiar copyright doctrine before that). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM_Studios,_Inc._v._Grokster,_Ltd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM_Studios,_Inc._v._Grokster,.... I'm not sure if this doctrine has continued to be applied to anything else.
- jedberg 22d agoThat's a good point. The other examples didn't involve copyright. Hopefully since it's so old, the copyright holders are cool about it. ps. Hi Seth, good to see you around!
- devindotcom 22d agoI need the Star Trek modules, which I recall waiting overnight to pirate from a BBS on my 14.4k. "Do NOT pick up the phone, mom." Also Lunatic Fringe - somehow and for some reason a full top down space shoot-em-up in After Dark. Probably for office workers to play, I do recall there was a "boss mode" that pulled up a fake spreadsheet or something.
- reaperducer 22d agoI need the Star Trek modules They're there. Installable from within the program.
- orangecat 22d agoDedicated Lunatic Fringe player: https://morphing.cloud/lunacy/ https://morphing.cloud/lunacy/
- cyanydeez 22d agoDid you forget to use that download protocol that lets you resume downloads or were you normal. I think it was zoom something.
- jasonpeacock 22d agoit was `zmodem`: https://b0b.com/ZMODEM.TXT https://b0b.com/ZMODEM.TXT
- cyanydeez 21d agoI was 10 or something, so I'm guessing I just Z...M it.
- devindotcom 21d agoI was pretty young so I barely knew how to operate the telnet terminal - we used one called White Knight. I recall it had a white background by default (hence the name, I suppose) and a green and yellow pie chart download progress indicator. Not sure if the protocol was available or easily enabled at the time or via those means. I surely would have used it! Buy my brother was the one who set up the application in the first place.
- Scramblejams 22d agoI need this for Wayland. Maybe when the maintainers discover that joy in computing both exists and can be a worthwhile pursuit.
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- theodric 21d agobUt tHeY'Re uNnEcEsSaRy, ThInK Of tHe pOwEr cOnSuMpTiOn! FaLL iN LiNe aNd dO As yOu'rE ToLd, LiNuX Is nOt aBoUt cHoIcE That said, XScreenSaver does work properly on Wayland now, apart from locking, but I don't need locking on my personal computer in my personal office in my personal house, so that's fine by me!
- reaperducer 22d agoI wish someone would do this for a recently deceased OS X screen saver I loved. Someone went through the film 2001: A Space Odyssey and re-created all of the computer screens, with animation. It was a masterpiece of mid-century design and space-age optimism. IIRC, the author got a cease-and-desist demand, and was left to languish and die when Macs went 64-bit only.
- 45sdasf45 22d ago"HAL 9000". This blog has how to do it on modern machines: https://www.fluffytech.co.uk/fluff/the-hal-project/#top https://www.fluffytech.co.uk/fluff/the-hal-project/#top general idea, rip the 4k vids from YT and use a video screensaver app
- dylan604 22d agoTook a look to links from your link to get to the 4K YT. At first I wasn't that impressed until I realized it was defaulting to 480p. The 2160 stream looks amazing. Sadly, being it's a YT stream, that might be the cleanest I've seen clips from that movie. Color me impressed as I go off to find the full movie like that.
- dallen33 22d agoHas anyone been able to make this actually work as a macOS screensaver? I'm using Tahoe and when I go to System Settings -> Wallpapers -> Screensavers, I don't see any option to select like Afterglow or any of the wallpapers I installed.
- jamesfmilne 22d agoYes it works, but you need to enable it in the Afterglow settings first.
- evereverever 21d agoGo to the settings in Afterglow first and enable it. Then in Settings Wallpaper tap the 'Screen saver..' button. Select 'Custom' and then scroll and it is the last item to the right in the 'Other' section.
- CodeWriter23 22d agoAnyone get this running? I installed and downloaded content but cannot figure out how to get it to appear under Screen Savers in System Settings.
- jamesfmilne 22d agoYou need to enable the Screen Saver module in the Afterglow settings first. Works great.
- CodeWriter23 22d agoThanks!
- nickt 22d agoIn screen savers, scroll to the bottom - and click on the easy to miss "Show All" on the right side. You should see Afterglow in the expanded list.
- CodeWriter23 22d agoThanks!
- alberth 22d agojcs has this on their blog. https://jcs.org/ https://jcs.org/ If you are idle for too long, the flying toasters / screensaver kicks in.
- Backslasher 22d agoSemi-related, I redid just the other day the Flying Toasters in-browser with the full logic from the original, toast-juggler and everything. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49432857 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49432857 Thought about doing it as a Linux screensaver, but I didn't have the patience to actually wait for the idle time, and that way I can share it with my non-Linux-using family.
- sharts 22d agoI’m surprised still that there hasn’t been a port of the classic old old Windows screensavers.
- temp0826 22d agoI get the nostalgia factor, but is it actually a good idea to use screensavers on modern monitors rather than letting them sleep?
- nodesocket 22d agoIs there just the one Mowin' Man in More After Dark?
- taocoyote 22d agoWe need this for the Death Toasters from Opus 'n Bill: Brain Saver
- rconti 22d agoThe original After Dark, distributed on floppy in 1989, 1.1MB, was $110 in today's money. More than $7 per screen saver! Of course, the target market of computer users was way smaller than it is today.
- coqadoodle 22d agoAll you needed was a school district that considered it standard software for all computers. I don't know if they licensed it properly... but it was everywhere.
- swiftcoder 22d agoThese are highly nostalgic. My grandfather had a Mac Classic he bought from a friend at work, and it was equipped with After Dark, but also the Looney Tunes sound effects pack (the only one I recall, is that it said "That's all folks" when you shut it down)
- rock_artist 22d agoIn our age of mobile devices, especially with modern phones having always-on displays this nostalgic experience would’ve been appreciated on phones and watches. (They can even show up / start moving only after picking the device for battery concerns :) ) Anyway, the flying toasters has some meditation vibe. Even compared to screensavers back then. Nice anecdote, With all the changes, screensavers have become less usable with screens being able to simply turn off pixels while toasters are still being used everyday.
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- WillAdams 21d agoThe thing which I kind of miss is the Stardate calendar app, which made managing class schedules more fun and less of a chore.
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- Walf 21d agoSatori for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8fL9lhcIC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8fL9lhcIC8
- maestroquirk 21d agoNeed this on the mini
- hotdog1492 21d agoSo cool! Is there any way you could make this play Johnny Castaway? I would kill for that.
- a2dam 21d agoIs the file on archive.org anywhere? Should be pretty straightforward to do if so
- MrDrMcCoy 21d agoI want this and talking moose for Linux on Wayland.
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- atombender 17d agoHead's up that this adds a non-trivial amount of CPU load when the screensaver isn't running. On macOS 26, the "legacy screensaver" process takes about 30% once this is enabled [1]. [1] https://i.imgur.com/vcrq7mG.png https://i.imgur.com/vcrq7mG.png